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Azure Jane Lunatic (Azz) đŸŒș ([personal profile] azurelunatic) wrote2011-09-18 11:55 pm
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75 tweets for 2011-9-18

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[personal profile] pauamma 2011-09-19 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I am very and cynically curious about the translation of "de zoulies filles" (fr) as context is everything
Start with "(some) pretty girls". Apply stereotypical Mexican (or maybe Puerto-Rican) accent, rendered in writing. (The original is stereotypical former-French-colonies-in-North-Africa accent.)
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2011-09-20 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Aha! Thanks!

I followed the fellow of whom I was speaking in # -bitch home to his Facebook - http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?userid=41714878&t=I ... which seems to be his 3rd Facebook account, from his comment which is imported from his Facebook's userinfo, though no idea what he is doing with the other two - and noticed that not only was he motivated to introduce himself in the fashion community, but that he had photographed a local beauty competition for les rondes (location: "Taken at au paradis surement, vu le nombre de zoulies filles ♄"). So I Googled him.

The situation, for those who weren't in IRC and may be catching up:

Guy posts to [livejournal.com profile] egl_plus with a statement of admiration that's apparently intended to be complimentary and a statement of how much he admires the fashion and the women wearing it. The community is, from my understanding, the sort of all-ages community that may well post "Hi, this is me in my outfit, don't I look awesome?" but also and perhaps primarily "Where do I find a petticoat that fits me properly" and "These are some patterns I found useful" -- not intended for people outside the community of participants in that fashion, although not closed. His praise was both over-the-top and contained specific red-flag phrasing: "this blog is my passion, my fetish, my sunshine in the morning, my moonlight in the dark \♄o♄/"

Tif saw this, was made uncomfortable, and let him know that she was uncomfortable and the purpose of the community, in the sort of no-nonsense but professional phrasing that someone might use on a novice theatre-goer who has stumbled into the green room somehow.

The guy's response was very "OMG I'm so embarrassed that you thought I meant 'fetish' like 'sex'!", and a community maintainer scolded Tif for having been so rude to this nice young man who was so very harmless and didn't mean "fetish" in the sexual sense, and wasn't doing anything wrong because it was apparent from his wording that he was just admiring, and not in a sexual way. And if it became apparent that he *was* doing something bad, she'd take action, but in the meantime, it was all perfectly acceptable and totally innocent, except for Tif being so mean!


So I Googled his name. I found out:
Someone of his name is banned from deviantArt: http://garsedj.deviantart.com/ (note the "hail to big girls, baby !" tagline
Someone of his name is banned again from deviantArt: http://garsedj2.deviantart.com/ (same profile picture)

Someone of his name did a video review of a book entitled osez aimez les rondes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmxgYCesF0s (my comprehension of spoken French is not equal to the review, but from a forum post, I gather that the title was promising but the contents did not measure up. Additionally, the forum post links his YouTube identity to his forum identity).

Someone of his name has a Steam profile which lists his membership in a BBW appreciation group: http://steamcommunity.com/id/garsedj
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/BBWchan


This does not look like the internet presence of a person who does not mean "fetish" in the sexual sense when referring to their appreciation of large women. Let's dig further.


From his Steam profile, he has linked a profile on a BBW appreciation bulletin board (as well as the board itself), and is an admin there: http://apple-aisuru.forumactif.fr/u1
... in fact, he seems to be the founder, judging from the signup date and "u1" being his profile number.

On this forum, he is an active participant, and started a thread about Elegant Gothic Lolita fashion: http://apple-aisuru.forumactif.fr/t1817-gothic-lolita-rondes-vive-bbw-chan
... in which he links to the LJ community in which I was made aware of him, [livejournal.com profile] egl_plus, and later re-posts photos from an entry there. Following the link back to the entry, there is no comment visible with any notice that the photos have been re-posted, which is generally considered courteous. (Following back to the profile of the user who wrote that entry, she does have a public birthdate listed, which puts her at over 18, though I don't know if I could have guessed her age from her appearance.)

I do not know how common his name is, but him linking to the community from this profile suggests that the Steam+YouTube+Apple-Aisuru person is the same as the Facebook person.

And to put to rest the very last shred of doubt that his interest does not contain a sexual dimension:
http://apple-aisuru.forumactif.fr/t4035p180-prude-crew-vs-perverse-gang "je connais trop de jolies filles pour garder mes pensées loin des fantasmes charnels
pervers gang par que les apple girls sont trop jolies"
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[personal profile] pauamma 2011-09-20 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that would make his claims.... disingenuous at best/
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2011-09-20 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Indeed.

He's not really the problem, though. Yes, he does indeed seem to be going into spaces that aren't really appropriate for him to be in and over-the-top appreciative (if the person with the foot fetish goes to the shoe fashion show, that's one thing; it's entirely another to hang out in the waiting room at the podiatrist's office) but the maintainers handled the situation in a manner that I found poor, inappropriate, repressive, and shaming.
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