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Azure Jane Lunatic (Azz) 🌺 ([personal profile] azurelunatic) wrote2019-01-03 03:04 pm

The definition of salad

Belovedest made tater tots last night, and we all had some (except the cats). They added some of the cooked ground beef and some cheese, and said something about stretching the definition of salad.

This was clearly (to me, anyway) in the same spirit of shitposting about the definition of sandwiches. So I considered my rules. "If it doesn't have anything that looks like it's photosynthesized recently, it's nachos," I declared.

This was accepted. Though I think the thing that makes it a nacho is the melted cheese. (By which definition, a staple of my childhood was rice nachos.)
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[personal profile] harpers_child 2019-01-03 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds like a version of what several local restaurants call "irish channel nachos". i.e. potato skins with the usual nacho toppings.
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[personal profile] redsixwing 2019-01-03 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Any word so broad as to include a Caesar salad, a macaroni salad, a jello salad, and a hot potato salad is already useless, so far as I can tell.*

That said, nachos always involve corn chips. ;)

*unless it means "edible stuff, probably mixed with other edible stuff," a definition I am prepared to accept.
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[personal profile] alexseanchai 2019-01-03 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
rice nachos

your childhood would horrify my Uncle Jeff

(my adulthood regularly horrifies Uncle Jeff; this is nothing to be terribly concerned about, though I must admit he has a point about my nutrition)
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[personal profile] lannamichaels 2019-01-03 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I just fell down a deep and terrifying hole in my head and I think I'm going to say that my personal defintion of salad is 1) "something where the vegetables are the point rather than an add-in", and, 2) is not meant to be eaten with rice or pasta. I add that addition because otherwise stir-fry is a salad and I got too scared by the possibilities.

As for what counts as nachos, I haven't the faintest.


EDIT: aaaaaand I just remembered my chicken pasta salad thing, so striking out pasta. If I end up ever making a salad that includes rice, I give up. :P
Edited 2019-01-03 23:59 (UTC)
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[personal profile] archangelbeth 2019-01-04 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
*ponders*

I think what makes it a nacho to me is corn chips + melted cheese. I, for instance, will eat nachos that have green bell-peppers on 'em. (Potato chips + melted cheese are not nachos, but some unholy abomination that people can of course find edible. I mean, it might even taste good, but it will not scratch the "Nacho Itch" in my brain and taste buds.)

*ponders salad*

Salads are a mix of Similar Foodstuffs With Discrete Boundaries, with 1 or maybe 2 Dissimilar Added permitted. E.g., Leafy Greens + Dressing (dissimilar) + meat/eggs (dissimilar). Fruit + cheese (optional). Pasta-and-sauce + uncooked vegetables (optional). This means that if you mix ham slices and bacon strips together, you have a meat salad, but I can live with this concept. ^_^

Jello salad is (Similar things) + Jello (dissimilar), but humans gonna human with language.

Chili doesn't really have discrete boundaries of the ingredients, so it can't be meat salad. It has become Diffuse Boundaries, and thus is Stew.
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[personal profile] melannen 2019-01-04 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I think I agree that nachos must have either chips or tortillas of SOME kind involved. Although of course then we could argue about whether tater tots are chips.

I think I would call your meal a deconstructed loaded baked potato, myself.(Anytime I can use the word "deconstructed" to describe that kind of meal it makes me very happy.)

I think for me the most important factor in a salad is it is a mix of at least two ingredients that is not a dessert and is served cold. I have never heard of "hot" potato salad before, I am not pleased to learn, and I'm pretty sure what that is, is a "casserole". :P Maybe I could finagle it to "a dish of at least two mixed ingredients that is not a dessert where the ingredients are not cooked together."
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[personal profile] alatefeline 2019-01-04 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
On nom tasty nachoes.
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[personal profile] wohali 2019-01-04 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
So if you add jalapenos, it's a salad, right?
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[personal profile] rainne 2019-01-05 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Nachos. I can get behind that.

By that definition, would a Frito Chili Pie be considered nachos, or is that more of a casserole?
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[personal profile] nadyne 2019-01-11 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
The cafeteria closest to my office does breakfast nachos: tater tots, cheese, bacon, optional fried egg, salsa, sour cream, and guacamole. You have to know to ask for them, but the cook loves it when you do.