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Azure Jane Lunatic (Azz) 🌺 ([personal profile] azurelunatic) wrote2004-01-06 03:12 pm

I should scream at Websense.

Mac OS X is not a "lifestyle". It is a computer operating system.
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[personal profile] sraun 2004-01-06 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Say what!?!

Could I get the URL? I want to try this. (We're running Websense at work.)

[identity profile] crisavec.livejournal.com 2004-01-06 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
That really depends on who you ask you know...there are some rather strident Mac-heads out there that might well be considered to be a alternate lifestyle.

[identity profile] crisavec.livejournal.com 2004-01-06 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Welcome to the realm of misclassifications....its been a buggaboo for filtering since its inception. I used to be on the Fight Censorship mailing list and its a constant battle...I finaly gave up the list after the PITA librarian quit his library and joined a censorship company, realised it was just raising my bloodpressure to no good end.
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[personal profile] sraun 2004-01-06 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm - I can't remember which version of Websense we're using, but it opened right up for me.

Wait a minute...

We're running Websense Enterprise, version unspecified. (The wonders of remember www.whitehouse.com is blocked.)

I just poked and prodded at www.websense.com - I've had to get sites reclassified before, so I've got an account there already. It's actually classified as "Society and Lifestyles: Personal Web Sites".

I've just given them this:

osx.hyperjeff.net is dedicated to the Mac OS X operating system. www.hyperjeff.net is his personal web site - but classifying information about using and configuring Mac OS X as 'Society and Lifestyles' is inappropriate to me.
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[personal profile] sraun 2004-01-06 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Websense makes a lot of sense sometimes, yes.

Actually, I know exactly what's going on here. By default, Websense blocks/categorizes first by IP address, then sub-categorizes by actual web-site. So, hyperjeff.net is someone's personal web site at some IP address, the IP address is categorized, no one has complained, so they haven't started doing sub-categorizing yet.

I wonder if I'm in there yet. If so, it's not blocked at DeVry -- yet.

Your angelfire site? I went to try to look it up - and it looks like their site lookup database has gone off-line. :-(

Maybe I'll remember to try looking it up tomorrow.
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[personal profile] wibbble 2004-01-06 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I dunno, it can be a lifestyle. ;o)

A shiny lifestyle!
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[personal profile] wibbble 2004-01-06 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
There are no black arts in Mac OS X...

...only SHINY arts!

Mac OS X is nifty. E's not that much of a tech-geek, but through Mac OS X I'll gradually introduce her to all the unix stuff.
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[personal profile] wibbble 2004-01-06 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
*grins*

Give someone a PHP website and they can geek for a day, but teach them how to code and they can geek for life!"

And in Mac OS X it all blends together nicely. 10.3 installs X11 for you, there's a virtual terminal application there... :o)
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[personal profile] sraun 2004-01-07 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Got an e-mail from Websense!

The site you submitted has been reviewed. We have changed the categorization for http://osx.hyperjeff.net/ to Info Tech and classified www.hyperjeff.net under the category Personal Websites. The updates should be available in the next publication of the database.
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[personal profile] sraun 2004-01-07 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Looked up your angelfire site - it is currently classified as "Web Hosting". Looks like you're inheriting the base classification of www.angelfire.com.
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[personal profile] sraun 2004-01-07 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, now that would be a pain!

http://www.livejournal.com/ is classified as "Message Boards and Clubs".

The concept of attempting to classify individual journals makes my head spin.
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[personal profile] sraun 2004-01-07 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Text-only may have influenced it some - but I'll bet the big reason was that no one ever pointed it out to Websense as something that needed to be classified. They're always behind - there are too many sites out there for them to classify every single site, sometimes I wonder if they have anyone proactively classifying sites at all! I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they just add sites to their database as people tell them to.