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azurelunatic) wrote2011-07-18 07:03 pm
azurelunatic) wrote2011-07-18 07:03 pm
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(Old stuff: February 7-9) Getting [general-]your damn rape culture off my lawn
Monday 2/7
Sunday was Superb Owl, so there was a GoDaddy commercial. I watched the commercial, and it was clear to me that everything said in there was totally scripted and absolutely okay with the people in question, but it embodied "you said yes earlier so I ignore you saying no now," and unethical exploitation of the letter of previous agreements in order to do things that were not actually consented to. Furthermore, most contracts of that sort are the "You said you'd do this in the contract; if you don't do this, you will have to pay fuckbuckets of money to us in penalties" rather than "You said you'd do this in the contract, you have to do it".
I got in a debate and stayed up way too late, and paid for it in the morning. Caffeine made me nearly human again.
When I got home, there was the #REMFallsDownTheStairs, which made me laugh so damn hard.
Steely Dan's "Do It Again" makes me wonder if there's any source for any of the SG1 actors, particularly O'Neill (and jdn) in Vegas.
If anyone wants to take the line "The dragon does not sleep. He waits." and do something with it, be my guest, and link me to it. This is what happens when you mix Harry Potter, John M. Ford, and Chuck Norris in my head.
I toldshirozora about the "Lose Yourself" incident.
Tuesday 2/8
'song's internet connection problems, explained.
Abortion can be a lifesaving procedure. Limiting access to abortion means that people in the sort of medical need where they will die if they are not treated immediately, will die. I damn near lost a friend that way.
I discovered "Down By the Water", which is the Decemberists, with bonus Peter Buck on guitar, which is why I recognized it the instant I heard it.
Wednesday 2/9
Get your damn rape culture out of my smut.
I do wind up reading stuff on Literotica a lot, which has what I would consider a decent cross-section of smut. I like group sex smut, but unfortunately a lot of the group sex stories I read ought to have AO3 warnings for rape/non-con, but don't have a hint of this in their categorization or other stuff. And it seems to be accepted by a lot of people that aren't me that yeah, if there's sex going on there will be a lot of SAYING NO and GENERAL DISCOMFORT WITH THE WHOLE THING and GETTING PEOPLE DRUNK and ALL THIS RAPE.
I don't think that's cool at all. Fandom is not a utopia, but generally either you have the labeling and/or warnings, or when there's no warning you tread very carefully because here there be dragons.
However, with an archive where there's a clearly marked section for coercion/noncon, and you're reading along happily, and suddenly THAT WAS NOT CONSENT YOU COMPLETE WASTE OF SPACE HUMAN happens, and then you realize that maybe this is NORMAL for archives that aren't the very well-tended spaces of fandom ...
... I don't have problems with my little fish (plural) running into explicit sex if they know that it's there and they want to read it. I do have problems with my little fish being exposed to SUDDENLY RAPE presented in the context of regular adult happytimes. That is not cool.
I was previously not at all understanding why people react to OMG SEX worse than OMG VIOLENCE, but if OMG SEX means that there's SUDDENLY RAPE ... yeah, that's not something that I want just out there unsorted for anyone to waltz into.
Education is good, so that the current generation and those that follow recognize rape when it shows up in their porn or in their reality. Labeling things is good too.
*sigh*
Sunday was Superb Owl, so there was a GoDaddy commercial. I watched the commercial, and it was clear to me that everything said in there was totally scripted and absolutely okay with the people in question, but it embodied "you said yes earlier so I ignore you saying no now," and unethical exploitation of the letter of previous agreements in order to do things that were not actually consented to. Furthermore, most contracts of that sort are the "You said you'd do this in the contract; if you don't do this, you will have to pay fuckbuckets of money to us in penalties" rather than "You said you'd do this in the contract, you have to do it".
I got in a debate and stayed up way too late, and paid for it in the morning. Caffeine made me nearly human again.
When I got home, there was the #REMFallsDownTheStairs, which made me laugh so damn hard.
Steely Dan's "Do It Again" makes me wonder if there's any source for any of the SG1 actors, particularly O'Neill (and jdn) in Vegas.
If anyone wants to take the line "The dragon does not sleep. He waits." and do something with it, be my guest, and link me to it. This is what happens when you mix Harry Potter, John M. Ford, and Chuck Norris in my head.
I told
shirozora about the "Lose Yourself" incident. Tuesday 2/8
'song's internet connection problems, explained.
Abortion can be a lifesaving procedure. Limiting access to abortion means that people in the sort of medical need where they will die if they are not treated immediately, will die. I damn near lost a friend that way.
I discovered "Down By the Water", which is the Decemberists, with bonus Peter Buck on guitar, which is why I recognized it the instant I heard it.
Wednesday 2/9
Get your damn rape culture out of my smut.
I do wind up reading stuff on Literotica a lot, which has what I would consider a decent cross-section of smut. I like group sex smut, but unfortunately a lot of the group sex stories I read ought to have AO3 warnings for rape/non-con, but don't have a hint of this in their categorization or other stuff. And it seems to be accepted by a lot of people that aren't me that yeah, if there's sex going on there will be a lot of SAYING NO and GENERAL DISCOMFORT WITH THE WHOLE THING and GETTING PEOPLE DRUNK and ALL THIS RAPE.
I don't think that's cool at all. Fandom is not a utopia, but generally either you have the labeling and/or warnings, or when there's no warning you tread very carefully because here there be dragons.
However, with an archive where there's a clearly marked section for coercion/noncon, and you're reading along happily, and suddenly THAT WAS NOT CONSENT YOU COMPLETE WASTE OF SPACE HUMAN happens, and then you realize that maybe this is NORMAL for archives that aren't the very well-tended spaces of fandom ...
... I don't have problems with my little fish (plural) running into explicit sex if they know that it's there and they want to read it. I do have problems with my little fish being exposed to SUDDENLY RAPE presented in the context of regular adult happytimes. That is not cool.
I was previously not at all understanding why people react to OMG SEX worse than OMG VIOLENCE, but if OMG SEX means that there's SUDDENLY RAPE ... yeah, that's not something that I want just out there unsorted for anyone to waltz into.
Education is good, so that the current generation and those that follow recognize rape when it shows up in their porn or in their reality. Labeling things is good too.
*sigh*
no subject
OMG SEX-related censorship is usually proposed and backed by social "conservatives" whereas OMG VIOLENCE-related censorship is usually proposed and backed by social "liberals". There is a certain amount of overlap but generally you can tell which side will be doing the most pearl-clutching any time a censorship issue arises by what's being censored. Violent video games? Probably liberal parent groups. Sex on the interwebs without an agewall? Probably conservative parent groups.
The only things both sides seem to have a consensus about is commercially produced pornography, particularly with a violent theme. A lot of "BDSM" porn is not really BDSM, it's dub-con and non-con. Since a lot of BDSM people do have an interest in those kinds of fantasies, there's a certain amount of blurring that goes on with commercially produced porn that would just not happen in fandom. Literotica strikes me as having more in common with commercially produced porn than with fandom. I wrote for a porn site briefly in the 90s and they really really love dub-con. (I won't write actual non-con where the person doesn't want it at all.)
But as a general rule, OMG SEX doesn't have anything to do with objection to the rape culture, it has to do with protecting children and "good" women from sexual information that their guardians haven't previously vetted to ensure that it reinforces their favourite generally theologic*ally based inaccuracies.
* Theological seems the wrong word for some of this. I know it comes from "theology" but I always want to call this shite "theoirrational".