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Azure Jane Lunatic (Azz) 🌺 ([personal profile] azurelunatic) wrote2020-04-23 02:25 pm
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Gendered language meme

That gendered language meme that's been going around. I've added a few.

It/its: Not unless you're an actual alien from outer space who doesn't understand human genders.

She/her: I will barely tolerate it from people who haven't been informed, and people who are going off my ID card. (I have not taken advantage of the ability to put X on my ID card, because I am reasonably apprehensive of it marking me for special awful treatment from assholes.)

He/him: Inaccurate. It matches so badly with my presentation that I'm likely going to assume that whoever is calling me that is doing so for a bad purpose, or really doesn't understand anything. On the other hand, sometimes more tolerable than she/her if those are the only two options, since it's so completely wrong.

They/them: Correct.

Neopronouns: Not offensive, but not mine.

Mr: Same as he/him: incredibly incorrect.

Mx: Not offensive, but only if it's the only non-gendered option.

Miss: Offensively incorrect.

Ms: Less offensive than Miss.

Ma'am: I appreciate that you're a service employee and this is a knee-jerk reflex.

Sir: Same as above.

Mistress: If we've negotiated that relationship we'll both know it. Or we're at a renfaire.

Master: Same, except backwards in a tux. (I had to add this one.)

Captain: Do I look like I have a starship? I do not have a starship. Please give me a starship, and then we'll talk.

Dr: Last I saw the internet wasn't an accredited institution giving out doctorates, but I will accept my doctorate of Internet Shit, minoring in Fandom.

Rev: I got that ULC ordination before I knew I was NB, but it's become very useful. (I had to add this one.)

Pal, buddy, friend, comrade, folks, etc: Some of them assume more social closeness than I'll accept from just any ol' person, but they're appropriately non-gendered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfKdNxIOcQ

Dude, bro, bruh: In California these can be non-gendered when addressing non-gendered people.

Sis: Only from acknowledged siblings.

Cousin or prima/primo: I don't know prima/primo, but in my case it's probably primx. Dai stiho, Cousin.

Sib: Only from acknowledged siblings.

Boi: I'm a little less butch than that.

Boy: I'm definitely a little less butch than that.

Girl: No.

Lady/ladies: In this household, that means one or both of the cats.

Terms of Endearment (hon, sweetie, darling): Only from people whose culture it is to call everyone that. But not random avuncular straightdudes.

"Feminine" compliments (pretty, beautiful, etc): Since my presentation is fairly femme (except for the shoes, which are butch AF unless I'm on wheels) I'll allow it. Except from gross dudes.

"Masculine" compliments (handsome, etc): I find them baffling, but same exclusions as above.

Neutral compliments (cute, attractive, cool, etc): Thank you. (Except the gross dudes.)
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[personal profile] alexseanchai 2020-04-23 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
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re prima/primo: I understand 'Latinx' is deprecated bc screenreaders and that community has nominated as replacement 'Latine'. So by analogy, to gender-neutralize prima/primo, we get something that's inevitably going to be read as an unrelated word.
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I was discussing a similar issue with another nonbinary friend

[personal profile] ng_moonmoth 2020-04-23 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
The context was slightly different, in that we were discussing gender-inclusive ways of applauding someone's accomplishments in line with the Italian "bravo" [M]/"brava" [F]. They mentioned a variant form that sat well with them: "brova". Looked good enough to adopt for me.

By analogy, then, "promi" or "prami" would be a possible option. I'd be in favor of "promi", but your mileage may vary.
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[personal profile] archangelbeth 2020-04-24 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
I once got so annoyed by a younger-than-me guy waiter calling me "hon" that I "hon"ned right back at him. I think he stopped then. -_-

(...I would accept Riov, even though I do not have a Warbirb, because I would assume someone was counting the several pixel starships from STO. ...if you get a starship, can I visit?)
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[personal profile] archangelbeth 2020-04-24 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
EXCELLENT!!!!

Honestly, especially after you get the transporter biofilters reprogrammed.
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[personal profile] elwinfortuna 2020-04-24 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
I'm so glad I live in a country now where the default "thing to call someone if you don't know their name" isn't Ma'am or Sir, and it's not endearments either, but fairly neutral terms like pal and mate. I used to get 'hen' a lot but I think it's fallen out of favour recently.
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[personal profile] lilysea 2020-04-24 12:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Captain: Do I look like I have a starship? I do not have a starship. Please give me a starship, and then we'll talk.

This made me laugh aloud! :D