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Votania: "There's been a hooker on the corner by the phones."
Nephew: "A what?"
Votania: *wince*
Azz: "A courtesan."
Votania: //Nice save.//
Nephew: "A courtesan?"
Votania: "A naughty girl. He's gotta learn sometime."
Azz: "A girl who stays up way too late, and is out on the street when she ought to be home in bed."
Votania: "Good definition."
Azz: "Among other things."
Votania: "Uh-huh."

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Umm. Perhaps it's my personal prejudice showing, but...what on earth makes a hooker "naughty"? It seems like a rather rude denigration of an entire profession. Admittedly, since it's illegal in most states, we tend to have...umm...*rather* low-class people in the profession. But does that make them morally wrong?

(And if you say yes, I'd *really* like to hear the justification of why it's not wrong to sleep around, but is wrong to charge for a physical service...)

Well, there's a difference between "sleeping around" and "carefully choosing non-married-to sexual partners".

Have not yet catalogued all of Votania's thoughts regarding LPST's, and the various subclasses within.

I'm not fond of the concept of "sleeping around". I am, in fact, more approving of the actual formalized business transaction situation than I am of "sleeping around" (selecting sexual partners with no other criteria other than "they're there and I'm horny", and perhaps an attractiveness check); at least everything's upfront and honest there.

My opinions about sex are often tangled and conflicting. I, myself, would prefer to only have sex with a partner who I would not have to have Great Drama with if there were a child born; I'd prefer someone of above-average intelligence and other desired genetic traits.

What you *want* for yourself, and what you think is morally wrong and right, are not necessarily the same thing. Are, in fact, *seldom* the same thing. I find many, many things completely morally acceptable (things which harm none) that I do not wish to do myself.

This attempt at connecting the two causes much prejudice, in my experience. *I* wouldn't do that, therefore it's wrong for *them* to do that.

Would I become a prostitute if it were legal and a safe profession? Umm. Still, no. It's not something I could do without going crazy. That doesn't invalidate the profession, nor justify disdain of those who are capable of it.

I like your use of referring to them as LPSTs. They don't, regrettably, exist yet. They're not licensed, and they're not therapists. But they are selling a valid service, and as worthy of respect as a shoeshiner, or a cook. Of course, as I said, the profession being illegal at the moment, most of the people *in* the profession are not worthy of respect, but that's a case-by-case judgment call. I've met chefs I don't respect, either...but it's not their profession I judge them by.

i have had a few friends who once or twice turn to prostitution for income and saying that it is wrong morally and ethically would mean that once i found out that happened icouldn't like them anymore wouldn't that be the same as saying i couldn't like you because your not straight because it was only how many years ago when they said that if you was bi then you were unmoral of course when look at that statement most would say that there is a difference between someone like more than just guys or more than just girls then going out and charging someone for physical pleasure it would also say that anyone showing in magizenies such as playboy or playgirl that the pepole in there are unmoral though maybe i am a little biased about it but as my friend said it a much better then some of the other choices out there stealing muging, along with a list of other things hell to use a quote from the cristian bible let he who has not sin cast the first stone or something like that or as i prefer don't judge someone unless you walked a mle in there shoes

Unfortunately, the only person who I've heard rumored to have been in that profession who I personally know would be That Woman. I must remember to not judge all prostitutes based on her.

I idealize Spider Robinson's vision of prostitution as a revered profession for those suited to it. I am not suited to it. I would probably think more fondly on the profession as practiced locally if people who were suited to it were directed to it, and people who were not suited to it (those who are only in the business because they have no other job opportunities, etc.) would not remain in the business long.

I think my mixed attitude comes from the concept that it could be a very good and worthwhile profession, both to the practitioner and the customer, but that it is suffering from the prejudice that sex is evil, especially when used outside of marriage, and is viewed as the last-resort job of someone who has nowhere else to turn to.

I'm also leery because of the idea that many, many prostitutes are also abusers of various drugs; this is perhaps my biggest reason for being wary of the variety of prostitute one would find on the corner where the phone booths are.

I worked, for a very short time, as a phone sex operator. I gave up the job, not because it was "wrong" to do so, or I thought that it was wrong, but because of one guy who just freaked the holy fuck out of me.

I spent a few hours stuttering and shivering to Darkside regarding this guy. The thought of him still gives me the creeps.

I'm also leery because of the idea that many, many prostitutes are also abusers of various drugs; this is perhaps my biggest reason for being wary of the variety of prostitute one would find on the corner where the phone booths are.

I agree with this paragraph entirely, dear, but realize what you are saying. As I said before, prostitution is *illegal* in most of this country, and that means that only those people who are desperate enough to follow a job path that makes them avoid the law are going to be doing it. It's not the JOB that is morally wrong, though, just because in this culture, only those with low moralities take the job, if you can understand the distinction.

I don't think drugs are evil, either, and I don't think there's anything morally wrong with selling drugs. That doesn't mean I want to go hang out with your average drug dealer, because right now, drugs are *illegal*, and that means it's the criminal element who are selling them. It's like outlawing guns and then only criminals will have guns...it's not owning the gun that makes them people I don't want to hang around. It's that the law is set up so that the people I want to hang around aren't going to own the guns, or sell drugs, or be sex workers, because the kind of people I want to hang around tend to avoid things that would send them to jail, ain't it?

(Heh, I've been reading

minisinoo's fic too much the last few days; I've picked up the speech habits of her Native American characters.)

Very well said.

I don't enjoy the company of immoral scum; anyone I find working an illegal job is likely to be immoral scum.

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