Things that various people think are objectively wrong

[azurelunatic]

Fanfic is objectively wrong.
Bisexuality is objectively wrong.
Homosexuality is objectively wrong.
<insert_religion_here> is objectively wrong.
Slash is objectively wrong.
Sex before marriage is objectively wrong.
Marriage before getting to know the other party is objectively wrong.
Arranged marriage is objectively wrong.
Interracial marriage is objectively wrong.
Slavery is objectively wrong.
Women voting is objectively wrong.
Polyamory is objectively wrong.
Role-playing-type-gaming is objectively wrong.
Censorship is objectively wrong.
Flag-burning is objectively wrong.
Book-burning is objectively wrong.
Divorce is objectively wrong.
Spanking is objectively wrong.
Making an image representative of another person is objectively wrong.
Abortion is objectively wrong.
Banning abortion is objectively wrong.
The Pill is objectively wrong.



...and the list goes on.

Comments

[vulpine137.livejournal.com]

Beliving that things are objectively wrong can be objectively wrong ;)

[azurelunatic]

Insert rant here.

[chorus-of-chaos.livejournal.com]

there are very few things I consider absolute, or objectively wrong. Torturing, rape and severe physical abuse of another person, especially children, who has done nothing to warrant such abuse is wrong, and you have to have done something pretty horrible to warrant such treatment, there are other avenues of punishment.

Pretty much everthing else has variations where the behaviour might be reasonable. (okay, pushing the red button and destroying the earth with thermonuclear weapons is pretty asinine. I really can't think of a good reason for that, regardless of alien invasion or what have you.)

[azurelunatic]

Agreed.

The subtler things, though, affecting only yourself and someone who's agreed to be there... those are the most difficult to figure out.

Re:

[chorus-of-chaos.livejournal.com]

I figure as long as you aren't hurting anyone but yourself....it's your call. Yeah, if you do drugs it hurts people who love you, but, for some people, there are good reasons for doing them. If I could lay my hands on marijuana, I would occasionally smoke it, because it does wonders for my fibro and my bi polar and anxiety which not a damn thing the doctor proscribes for me will even touch.

Yeah, if you take your life it will hurt others, but if your quality of life sucks that bad....it's still your life and your call.

Forcing someone else to take drugs for no reason that benefits them, only because it benefits you? (think date rape pill, or the pimps who force thier working women to do drugs to control them) questionable. Taking someone elses's life just for shits and giggles on your part? questionable...but at that point you are making a major decision for someone else against their wishes and thereby hurting them...what you do to yourself, so long as you are semi rational should be only your call to make. (if you've been brainwashed or programmed, then I really don't see it as your choice..and therefor questionable. But if you are in relatively sound mind? It's your business.)

[azurelunatic]

I would say that date rape drugs, used for date rape, are more than questionable.

But yeah.

Re:

[chorus-of-chaos.livejournal.com]

sometimes there is always that one oddball instance where it's not an issue...say that couple that likes to spice up thier sex life by pretending they don't know each other and he slips her a mickey and takes her home, people do wierd shit....but 99% of the time the woman isn't aware, and if it's not her choice then it's wrong..

[azurelunatic]

True, there are those weird sex games people play.

I like it when Darkside play-fights me, even though we're not getting it on. Go figure.

[powerhand.livejournal.com]

agreed and not agreed.

any man is suppose to born free with a free will to do what he/she thinks is right. we are raised to live by certain standards and ethics. it's also part of humanity to rebel and question these values that our parents and other people give to us. but the interesting point, in my opinion, is that how often you do something *just* for yourself? even the smallest things can affect other people around you.

the biggest issue so far is my brother's suicide two years ago. i think i will never get over it. and i think big part of his final decision was a tragic misunderstanding that could have been avoided. he broke my heart, my sister's heart, my mother's heart and my father's heart. it can't be right.