Azure Jane Lunatic (Azz) 🌺 (![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
azurelunatic) wrote2003-12-21 02:42 am
azurelunatic) wrote2003-12-21 02:42 am
Grace, elemental correlations
(offlist musings)
Some of us are goblets, true. I had to stop reading at the lengthy musing on the nature of clergy and their relation to Grace, because it resonated with me, long and deep and intensively potentially nerve-wracking. In consequence, I have about nine more digests to get through, and I don't think I'll make it this morning.
I wonder what the breakdown is, for enjoying The Curse of Chalion and especially Paladin of Souls, sorted between clergy and not-clergy, and those who would admit to holding grace, and those who would admit to not being able to grasp it for long.
Some of us fashion ourselves into the empty cups, true. But it's a poor distributor of grace who accepts the grace and holds it as a miser might. Conduit, is the better word. Selective conduit. So perhaps cup is the best metaphor. But when I'm doing something interesting, I mostly go away, and I am flowed through.
Equally important might be the other symbols. The Cup is one powerful symbol. So is the Sword, and the Wand, and the Pentacle. Cup holds water. I'll associate Sword with Fire, Wand with Air.![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
garnetdagger, were she not so stubborn, could be a good sword of the gods. Divine wrath personified. Naomi is the Wand, or the Pen -- Air, ideas, creativity. Though what the hell she's supposed to be doing... oh. That. Right. The artists touched by God fill this category. Pentacle is Earth -- Earth of the gods is the nurturing spirit, the spirit rich in grace that has no real use for grace itself, but gives grace unto that which grows in it. The Chalice is empty, and holds grace to fill the empty space; the Pentacle is solid, and absorbs grace.
Those are the other elemental modes of the saint. Scary, some of them, but to each their purpose. Joan of Arc may have been a Sword. Not a position suited to sanity. Bothari was a Sword. Cordelia was the Chalice -- the fountain, distributing honor, keeping none for herself. So, a Sword must have a Chalice, is that so? Perhaps. No, Bothari was just insane, and out of touch with his Will, and had to give his Will over to Cordelia's. His was an example of a twisted gift that was somehow fashioned over to make right.
Some of us are goblets, true. I had to stop reading at the lengthy musing on the nature of clergy and their relation to Grace, because it resonated with me, long and deep and intensively potentially nerve-wracking. In consequence, I have about nine more digests to get through, and I don't think I'll make it this morning.
I wonder what the breakdown is, for enjoying The Curse of Chalion and especially Paladin of Souls, sorted between clergy and not-clergy, and those who would admit to holding grace, and those who would admit to not being able to grasp it for long.
Some of us fashion ourselves into the empty cups, true. But it's a poor distributor of grace who accepts the grace and holds it as a miser might. Conduit, is the better word. Selective conduit. So perhaps cup is the best metaphor. But when I'm doing something interesting, I mostly go away, and I am flowed through.
Equally important might be the other symbols. The Cup is one powerful symbol. So is the Sword, and the Wand, and the Pentacle. Cup holds water. I'll associate Sword with Fire, Wand with Air.
garnetdagger, were she not so stubborn, could be a good sword of the gods. Divine wrath personified. Naomi is the Wand, or the Pen -- Air, ideas, creativity. Though what the hell she's supposed to be doing... oh. That. Right. The artists touched by God fill this category. Pentacle is Earth -- Earth of the gods is the nurturing spirit, the spirit rich in grace that has no real use for grace itself, but gives grace unto that which grows in it. The Chalice is empty, and holds grace to fill the empty space; the Pentacle is solid, and absorbs grace. Those are the other elemental modes of the saint. Scary, some of them, but to each their purpose. Joan of Arc may have been a Sword. Not a position suited to sanity. Bothari was a Sword. Cordelia was the Chalice -- the fountain, distributing honor, keeping none for herself. So, a Sword must have a Chalice, is that so? Perhaps. No, Bothari was just insane, and out of touch with his Will, and had to give his Will over to Cordelia's. His was an example of a twisted gift that was somehow fashioned over to make right.
Discreet Inquiry
Profitne
Re: Discreet Inquiry