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Azure Jane Lunatic (Azz) 🌺 ([personal profile] azurelunatic) wrote2007-02-24 02:09 am
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Why you don't want to pull your kids out of class

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070223/ap_on_re_us/gay_marriage_schools -- Go, judge. Yay!

...However, dear parents, your bright idea of pulling your kids from class? First of all, unless your kids are the SOCIAL PARIAH of class, they will learn what it was that they were supposed to have learned from the teacher, except as taught by their peers. With color commentary, probably with rude slang, and really, you don't want to see a sixth-grader's idea of an anatomically correct drawing of genitalia.

Pulling from class, unless it's for an unambiguously positive reason (like gifted & talented class) is an embarrassment. It singles you out from the other kids, and unless you have the kids sufficiently under your thumb that they will believe what you want them to believe without question (which you're unlikely to do if they're around their peer group and have been learning about the many ways that parents lie to you) they may not view being singled out and not learning something as a good thing. If they're academically lazy, they may like the idea. If they have inspiring teachers, and the rest of the kids are doing something that they're excluded from, they'll probably be feeling humiliated and cheated out of an enjoyable learning experience.

When they come back to the class, they are going to ask their friends what they missed. Their friends are going to tell them. If it's something that they consider not worth that much parental reaction, they're going to be wondering what the big deal is. I know if my parents barred me from learning something in school, I would not feel comfortable asking them about that topic, because they would have demonstrated to me that they were not comfortable with the idea of me knowing this. That would discourage me from asking them about it. I'd ask my friends, maybe my teacher, and might poke around in the library.

If you're going to teach your kids your way vs. the way that school plans to teach them, for goodness sake, do it beforehand. That way the kid will have already been exposed to the topic, and their first impression will be of your presentation of it, rather than whatever the fuck their classmate says.
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[personal profile] wibbble 2007-02-24 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel quite confident that these parents planned to teach their children /nothing/ on the matter of sex and sexuality, which is probably the real core of their problem: they see homosexual couples as innately sexual (in a way that heterosexual couples somehow aren't) and they're upset that their child is being taught about something that they wanted them to remain ignorant about until 'they were old enough'.

'Old enough' in their head means 'married', probably. In reality it has a good chance of meaning 'pregnant/making someone pregnant because of rampant ignorance'.

I firmly believe that some people should not be allowed to raise children by themselves. They just damage these poor kids.

[identity profile] elance.livejournal.com 2007-02-25 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
In my father's defense, to be fair, he knew very little about female anatomy, to the point where he thought women peed from the vagina.

My mother, on the other hand, has no excuse. She should have at least told me about UTIs and yeast infections and how to avoid them/what the symptoms were.

The conservative christian high school I attended was no help either -- I distinctly remember being told over and over that condoms a) failed constantly in protecting pregnancy and b) were of no use in preventing most sexually transmitted diseases.
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[personal profile] wibbble 2007-02-25 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see that as a valid 'excuse' for him: there's plenty of books aimed at children, and he could've read one of them himself once he knew he had a daughter. As soon as you know that you've sprogged a female, you know that you're going to have to answer questions at some point.

It's not as if your father has the excuse of being some uneducated yokel. The dude can read as well as the next PhD.

[identity profile] elance.livejournal.com 2007-02-24 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I was pulled out of class for the whole sex education thing, and it wasn't until starting to read [livejournal.com profile] vaginapagina last year, well after the whole marriage and sex thing, that I realised how woefully ignorant I was of my own body. I think for all my parents' distress and grief over me having MRKH, there was some element of relief -- "oh, that means we'll never have to discuss sex with her."

The things I did learn, I learned from porn and books, which may be all right for sexual techniques, but don't do very well for avoiding infections and keeping clean and all that fun stuff.

[identity profile] elance.livejournal.com 2007-02-25 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
The queue starts round the corner....