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Azure Jane Lunatic (Azz) 🌺 ([personal profile] azurelunatic) wrote2007-05-11 05:44 pm

When does Friday feel like a Monday?

11:44 AM 5/11/2007
Provided disambiguation for co-workers on NAMBLA, underage/overage polygamy, plural adult relationships, and underage/underage relationships. NAMBLA and
underage/overage relationships are creepy. (I understand that some people are very sexually aware at very young ages, and are interested in adults, but they are very much the exception rather than the norm, and any relationship they had the possibility of getting into would have the Chibi Sue problem.) Plural adult relationships -- as long as everyone's adult and
consenting, have at. Underage/underage relationships can have problems if someone gets diseased or knocked up, and teenagers have nearly infinite capacity for cruelty and trauma, but ... teenagers, you know?


1:02 PM 5/11/2007
http://azurelunatic.livejournal.com/2007/04/19 -- THAT is the woman who gave
feedbacks.


2:42 PM 5/11/2007
Plastic blood! http://www.shef.ac.uk/mediacentre/2007 (As seen on Slashdot, but I went to the source instead of the BBC article.)


5:15 PM 5/11/2007
I should check some of these out.
http://lpetr.org/blog/archives/utilities-roundup-for-windows-i

...self, there are things you can't do anything about, and you're not responsible for doing things about this. Let it go. Let it go. There is an error in the program.



...and "Suzanne" comes on Pandora, and suddenly I feel my own weightlessness in my sacral chakra.

[identity profile] ataniell93.livejournal.com 2007-05-12 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Whether I think underage/overage is creepy or not depends on the age difference--I have a hard time getting worked up about it if it's five years or less and the relationship is clearly consensual.

[identity profile] ataniell93.livejournal.com 2007-05-12 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
I can't really be squicked by any of those, because I've done both 17/13 and 15/20. As the younger partner.

Actually it would be more accurate to say that I am *generally* not squicked by age differences of five years or less. I really do not believe in the magickal age of 18 except as a legal fiction that people must deal with for the sake of their own health. That was a much softer legal line when I was a teenager, and hence the Chibi-Sue problem was much less endemic. I briefly had a 27 year old boyfriend when I was 15 or 16, and it was not a problem until he met my dad who was in overprotective mode because he and I had had a date and I had been unable to call him to break it after a laboratory accident that left me seriously burnt on my arm and less seriously so on my torso thanks to a couple of t-shirts and a padded bra.

I'm not actually squicked by any of the pairings I write, although Cordelia/James in LW comes close to squicking me and only doesn't because even though she is 12-13 and he is a young 17, she definitely has more power over him than he does over her. What squicks me about age-differentiated pairings in real life is the power and influence the older partner seems to have in most cases, and the way that it's very rarely used for the younger partner's good. My 27 year old boyfriend, when I was 16, and I went to lectures and artshows together and he encouraged my ambitions; a year or so later, I ended up with a different guy that age who wanted me to marry him and have babies, and I basically laughed him off. THAT kind of guy hitting on younger girls, the one who wants to get a younger teen dependent on him before she's old enough to know any better, bothers me a lot, and that's usually the case; but I know a lot of bright, intelligent girls who are simply bored stupid with boys their own age. I don't think I dated anyone my age until I was 19 or 20. Ironically in recent years I've dated *younger* people, people in their 20s and 30s--I don't have much in common with your average over-40 male, particularly divorced dads.

[identity profile] ataniell93.livejournal.com 2007-05-12 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'd have no trouble with Mormon polygamy if it weren't for all the 13 year olds getting married to their 60 year old great uncles and shit. That shit is gross.

[identity profile] ataniell93.livejournal.com 2007-05-12 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
Meh. If adults want to freely agree to unfair arrangements, it's not my business to get up in arms about. My problem with it is the forced participation, particularly of girls who aren't old enough to get married and aren't well educated enough to support themselves, and the way that in so many of those communities the elders break up marriages as a punishment and "reassign" wives like so much property. If a woman knowingly consents to polygyny-only polygamy, presumably she has her reasons for doing so. Many of the women who claim to be happy in these arrangements like not having a man around all the time, so polyandry would not be for them.

[identity profile] myrrhianna.livejournal.com 2007-05-12 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
THAT is the woman who gave feedbacks.

I just find it creepy that there have been so many of them recently.

[identity profile] myrrhianna.livejournal.com 2007-05-12 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
*understands completely* *hug*

[identity profile] ataniell93.livejournal.com 2007-05-12 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
There definitely is a time in your life when you have to say, "I've done my share of fool-suffering and I can't do any more, at least not for a while." And that is okay. Don't let anyone tell you it isn't. Because if you don't, you'll start ripping their fool heads off, and I don't wanna have to visit you in jail.

[identity profile] crisavec.livejournal.com 2007-05-12 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
You really should check out those Utils. I use half of them on a daily basis, and have worked with/tested out the rest.