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Azure Jane Lunatic (Azz) 🌺 ([personal profile] azurelunatic) wrote2009-04-03 06:55 pm

Summing up Iowa's Supreme Court ruling to allow same-sex marriage:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/us/20090403iowa-release.pdf

The following is an informal summary of the ruling.

Dude. Even though this state has a large number of bigoted twits who want to keep the gays out of your marriage, it's still fucking unconstitutional, and you can go shove beans up your nose. Let me compare you to people who wanted to keep slavery and segregation around, and keep women from voting.

If you want to discriminate against a group, your ducks has better be very well in a row, and we're going to go right on down and show you where your ducks just ain't.

Same-sex couples can't reproduce? Shove that up your nose. Same-sex couples are adult humans who want to get civilly hitched, and this is about getting hitched, not about getting knocked up.

You want to claim that this is about denying marriage to same-sex couples, not about discriminating against gays and lesbians? Shove that up your nose too. Who the fuck else is going to want to get a same-sex marriage?

Gays and lesbians get discriminated against, despite being productive members of society. You can shove your "ex-gay" therapy up your nose too, because anyone with more brains than a turnip can see that it hurts more than it helps. Despite it being fucking illegal to discriminate in some cases, guess what, it still happens.

Traditional marriage is traditional. If you can't think up a better argument than that circular one, you can bite me.

For the childrens! Um, while we see that you claim that a mother and a father are the best, but let's take a look at REALITY, where all kids DON'T HAVE THIS.

How about no. Deadbeat parents, child molesters, and murderers can still get hitched. Let's think critically about this for a moment. If we don't deny marriage to these people, why again are we denying it to a group that's, see above, productive members of society?

Same-sex couples are still RAISING kids, without being married. Um. So you want to deny the benefit of having MARRIED parents to these kids, while claiming that all kids should have married parents? Bite me.

Lots of same-sex couples don't have kids. Opposite-sex couples who don't have kids can get married. Bite me.

Exactly how is same-sex couples getting married going to stop opposite-sex couples from getting themselves knocked up?!

Exactly how is same-sex couples getting married going to make opposite-sex couples stop getting married or raise the opposite-sex divorce rate?!

It would save the government money if less people got married. Very much so. But why stop at excluding the queers when you could also exclude religions you don't like or races you don't like? Bite me.

"The sanctity of religious marriage is threatened! Our world is crumbling around us!" ...uh, have you read the marriage law? Your religion can define "marriage" all it wants to. This law is about civil marriage. Bite me.

In conclusion: denying same-sex marriage to gays and lesbians is discriminatory, wrong, and above all, unconstitutional. Get hitched, guys and gals. And those opposed? Bite me.

[identity profile] hakeber.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
For the first time in my life, I like my former home state.

[identity profile] thepikey.livejournal.com 2009-04-05 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
As an Iowa refugee, I concur.

It's especially bittersweet because I'm in California now...

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
That is the BEST summary of a legal ruling I have ever read. And YAY!!!!!

[identity profile] adina-atl.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know, I'm crying about Iowa--only in a good way. *grin*

Great summary!

[identity profile] ifeedformula.livejournal.com 2009-04-05 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
ITA!
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[personal profile] conuly 2009-04-04 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
*giggles*

I'm on a [livejournal.com profile] metaquotes binge lately - may I?
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[personal profile] conuly 2009-04-04 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Hm. Then again, it's a bit long....

[identity profile] starcat-jewel.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
That's what the context link is for. Just put up the first paragraph as a teaser.
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[personal profile] conuly 2009-04-04 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, hush,

[identity profile] brooklynmili.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
This. *g*

(uses her gay wedding icon! only has six icons, but this is still the gayest!)

[identity profile] luminairex.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
I know a same-sex couple that has reproduced. They are technically married in California, but last I heard they were uncertain of their status after Prop 8 passed.

But yes, the entire argument against it is ridiculous. I have yet to hear someone rationally explain how banning same-sex marriage is not discriminatory, or any legal basis to prohibiting it.

[identity profile] luminairex.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't know you swung that way. Learn something new every day! :-P

[identity profile] gameboyguy13.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 09:07 am (UTC)(link)
It's pretty uncertain for any of the 18000 couples who got married when it was legal in CA. They may end up in a state where their marriages are legal but no one else in the state can get one similar, or they may be annulled somehow, or the proposition may be ruled unconstitutional. We won't know until we hear the verdict from the CA supreme court, though, and that probably won't happen until May or June.

[identity profile] shiv5468.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
It looks like they saw to the heart of the issue.

Iowa

[identity profile] pingback-bot.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
User [livejournal.com profile] xugglybug referenced to your post from Iowa saying: [...] An informal summary of Iowa's Supreme Court ruling to allow same-sex marriage by . Also, is it just me that thinks people need to get the fuck over the term "gay marriage"? [...]

Re: Iowa

[identity profile] lizzy-someone.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, I always thought the term "gay marriage" was kind of weird. Marriages don't have sexual orientations; people do. A same-sex marriage is not necessarily composed of two gay people, or even any gay people -- there are same-sex couples composed of one or more bisexual people, or people of any of a number of sexual orientations that allow for same-sex relationships (if we count heteroflexible, homoflexible, etc.).
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Re: Iowa

[identity profile] xugglybug.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
That is pretty much exactly what I meant.

Iowa Ruling on Same-Sex Marriage...

[identity profile] pingback-bot.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
User [livejournal.com profile] xinef referenced to your post from Iowa Ruling on Same-Sex Marriage... saying: [...] Post by sums up why the arguments against gay marriage just don't make sense. Very well put. [...]

[identity profile] sleepinbeast.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
bravo Iowa!

and thanks for the funny summary!

(here from metaquotes)

[identity profile] ruthi.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
here from metaquotes.
Yay.
And thank you for the lovely summary.

[identity profile] kyra-neko-rei.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I just spent the past hour and a half reading the Iowa Supreme Court decision, and then came to Metaquotes and here it is in one page, in words better fitting the respect due to the opposition.

*applause*

[identity profile] katiepult.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice summary and I love the sarcasm :)

<< Oregon here. It's nice to see a bible belt state stand up to be counted

[identity profile] felicie4.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Here via metaquotes, and just wanted to say thanks for the great summary and GO IOWA SUPREME COURT! :D

[identity profile] contrariwiseone.livejournal.com 2009-04-04 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Metaquotes says: Actually, traditional marriage isn't traditional. That's the best part.

[identity profile] flameraven.livejournal.com 2009-04-05 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
This is also true! The husband-and-wife-with-kids nuclear family is fairly recent and fairly limited thing. People who bitch about "traditional marriage" and how God intended for it to be "one man and one woman" need to got take some Anthropology classes and learn them some culturez. Marriage and families have all kinds of flavors, and guess what? Each of those flavors works out for the people who came up with it. And the world didn't end. AMAZING.

[identity profile] madsqueeble.livejournal.com 2009-04-05 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Here from MQ. I LIKE this summary!

[identity profile] midnight-mischf.livejournal.com 2009-04-05 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. Just, totally, YES. And :applauds:.

(MQ :))

[identity profile] orangemike.livejournal.com 2009-04-07 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Makes me proud to be an Iowan-in-law. Anybody on this list attend ICON, the annual SF convention there?
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[identity profile] orbitaldiamonds.livejournal.com 2009-08-26 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Here from [livejournal.com profile] metaquotes. This is made of win and awesome.
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[identity profile] orbitaldiamonds.livejournal.com 2009-08-29 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Anytime. 'Twas awesome. :)