azurelunatic | Some things I don't stand for.

He's deleted the entry [the comments were already deleted the first time I checked, which was yesterday]. Please tell me there are screencaps somewhere...

I don't have 'em, alas. Someone in

rm's place would be likely to have got them, however.

There are. here, here, and here.

Thank Heavens For Fandom...

I don't generally approve of screencapping and linking to a deleted post; if someone wants to bury their fail, let them, I usually think. Heaven knows I've deleted/edited/privatized any number of my own posts.

And yes: it might well seem that I'm willing to violate my so-called principles when my own ox is being gored. But not only was this a public post permitted to stand for approximately 72 hours before deletion, it was (a) both unambiguous in message and explicit hatespeech, and (b) a statement by a quasi-public person, a professional author, published in his eponymous journal both as advocacy and as a statement of his beliefs. It is the specific hatespeech element, in my mind -- as distinguished from the posting of an ignorant or unpopular opinion -- that makes me, you know, pretty much okay with this.

I mean, people are entitled to Freedom of Conscience, Freedom of Opinion, Freedom of Belief, and -- pace the "shout 'Fire' in a crowded theater" test -- Freedom of Expression. But what actually baffles me, in this and similar instances, is: how could Wright ever have thought expressing these views would NOT lead to 800 posts telling him he was an idiot? On what PLANET are these opinions so mainstream/acceptable that they can be expressed in a public forum without dispute?

[Dear Azz: thanks for the use of the hall...]

What got my goat -- and why I did this -- was that the motive behind his deletion wasn't that he thought the post was stupid; he did it because people were "slandering" his page on Wikipedia by calling him a homophobe and citing the post. First, with all of his legal training, he should know that it isn't slander in the US if it's true. Second, he did it to cover his arse and keep people from criticizing him for his beliefs, which are well deserving of criticism.

Another mirror of the comment is here, BTW.

Thank you!

Having read several of his posts and pendant comments following that one, I submit that JCW is an object of pity as well. He's been trumpeting far and wide the fact that he's a Christian [apparently a Catholic] and saying he forgives those who "persecute" him because he is "obligated" to do so, even though he continues to refer to both the people he has slandered and the people who disagree with him with loaded and perjorative language.

Does he not GET that if he is unable to refrain from doing so, he is not only *not* acting in a spirit of reconciliation, but lying about it and so compounding that which his religion and sect believes to be a transgression in the first place? It's 2bad nobody's made up a Sin Bingo Card, because I'm pretty sure he's hit at least three of the Major League Sins: Pride, Falsehood, and Slander ["slander" may not be in the starting lineup; i'm not entirely sure].

While stupidity isn't a sin, either he's stupid or he thinks his readership is. And the self-identified Christians commenting to his posts don't seem to possess enough love for their co-religionist to point out in how many way's he's screwing the pooch here...

Sin bingo ought to have columns for each major category of sin, right?

http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/mortal_versus_venial.htm

Slander seems to be listed in the starting lineup according to them!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venial_sin
http://www.saintaquinas.com/mortal_sin.html

vainglory (pride), avarice, gluttony, lust, sloth, envy, anger.

Desire to be Right On The Internet is a form of Pride, I think.

in order to fill out the Bingo Card, I'd include both Mortal and Venial sins, i think. and i'd say the conviction one was right -- as opposed merely to the desire to be right -- definitely seats the holder in the "Sin of Vainglory" section...

I notice he's disabled comments since last night.

He's either a nasty little man or a nasty little troll. Neither option is good.

tiferet has had at least one brush with him. He evidently does an admirable job of sharing his true personality with the internet. (He came up in conversation tonight.)

Well, I suppose we knew that there had to people some deranged freaks like him out there. Just unpleasant to have had to see it.

He's a Berk

Agreed.

I was relieved to see that no one on my actual friends list had the poor taste to list him as a friend.

And he wrote girls being spanked at school I gather so he's hypocritical as well as stupid.

Oh, but that was before he reached enlightenment, so it doesn't count.

Oh was it? When he was a dirty atheist?

Sighs.

And I'm sure he still counts the royalties. And he was still heterosexual when he did it. Pervert!

I've never heard of the bastard before now.

Neither had I.

Or his wife.

I heard about her the other day.

Dude, I didn't know it was possible to make OSC classy.

That takes WORK.

Sadly, I think this guy wasn't even trying.

I wonder if he's every actually realised that 'the gays' aren't a confronting group of leather-clad hedonists who vote Socialist (well, four or five of them are, but they're statistically negligible) but more often suburbanites named Neville. Rants like his are one of the reasons I applaud Americans brave enough to come out, because they change closed minds one at a time.

One would hope that his professed Christianity would be enough to stop his bigotry; alas, all too often, a fundamentally decent religion is perverted by fundamentalism.

He appears to be a recent convert from atheism, and like so many converts, he's...enthusiastic

That's the most charitable explanation I can divine.

Ah. That may make a little more sense. Thank you.

My virtual little brother's parents have mostly stopped fussing at him for BEING QUEER OMG and have started fussing at him for living in sin with someone he barely knows, like they would if he were their daughter who'd moved in with some guy.

It's a distinct improvement.

If I were Christian myself, I'd read a whole lot of people the riot act. As it is, I'll cheer from the sidelines.

Pardon me if I didn't read the whole thing, I couldn't choke down past the fourth paragraph...his entire post is emotional vomit...

Though how someone could get worked up over something like that is beyond me. After all, there was 'homosex' before television, and there will be 'homosex' after television. Go watch the giraffes.

I think that's more of a detailed reading than I was able to do. I skimmed.

Heck, watch my aunt's dogs.

Skimming through his recent posts, he seems to be apologizing in the most asinine Christian way I've seen. I am sooo glad I don't know this person in real life.

I would not blame any member of the religion for attempting to excommunicate him.

I do not. The dude sounds a lot like a close minded bigot, which is one of the few things I cannot tolerate associating with.

Good to know.

Yep, you said it.

I'm carefully reminding myself that not all Christians are like this. He was this way before he converted, but it just brought the nastiness out.

I want to write a loving, sensual, gay romance story and tell him he inspired it.

Think about Christians like my best friend instead. It will cheer you up.

And a ficathon is just what the internet needs to cheer up from this. A ficathon in his name. :D

Oh, yes!

A kinky slash meme ficathon, like

sizeofthatthing. (Warning: contains many thousands of words of glorious Doctor Who porn. Slash, femmeslash, het, groups and RPF.)

That's not a warning, that's an enticement. *grin*

I know!

(There's at least one with Donna and an adult Adipose...)

The Sci-Fi Channel (I cannot bring myself to type the phonetic/stupitastic new version of their name)

I agree with that part of his entry(*). Will that be a problem?

(*): Although the old spelling is as bad, IMO. The proper abbreviation for science fiction is SF. :-)

Okay, I did not think that I'd find any points of agreement with him. A stopped clock is right every now and then, depending on the precision of the clock.

Indeed. (And for the unwary, should such stumble on this comment thread later: although I genuinely hold that opinion about the naming of that TV channel, mentioning that as a point of agreement with him was meant in jest.)

I haven't bothered to read his stuff. I read an excerpt with another friend complaining about his bigotry. I doubt I agree with his views.

Card does make me sad though. I love Ender's Game. It's one of my favorite books. I hate Card's politics and most of his views. But I still think Ender's Game is a great book.

I remember it fondly, although I sadly cannot bring myself to re-read it.

He appears to have courageously deleted the post. Or privatized it. Or otherwise blocked it.

Deleted.

There are screencaps.

There's also a Google cache. I've seen just enough of it that I know I don't want to see more.

Does he go to cons, d'you know? I'm envisioning fannish types (with our sideways senses of humor) letting him know that he's surrounded by queers...and he doesn't know which amongst the crowds they are.... (With possible bonus points for breathing "fag cooties" into the air he's breathing.)

It's pretty bad. It's also pretty thick reading if you don't jump on board his logic train and let yourself be seduced by his mindset.

I don't know if he does the con thing.

I hope he has eventual enlightenment and that it's pretty brutal.

Some things I don't stand for.

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