azurelunatic | Don't get mad. Write porn.

Don't get mad. Write porn.

So.

starbrow had a great idea in reaction to recent unpleasantness (which was touched off by another problem, it turns out): "I want to write a loving, sensual, gay romance story and tell him he inspired it." (The dude has deleted the entry in question and is frantically backpedaling, and seems to be claiming that he's changing his mind on certain points, but I think I'll just not engage with the crazy.)

What: a pan-fandom slash ficathon, with sex-positive, LBGTQ(etc)-positive, kink-positive, loving fic. (Het is fine as long as it's kinky and not with people who are lesbians in canon. [Edit: Het with canon gay men probably not such a great idea either. [Addendum to the edit: JDN/Cammie is always allowable.]]) Bonus points for femslash and people who get marginalized by Hollywood.
Why: action is better than wheel-spinning rage
Who: anyone who got annoyed/outraged by that and has a bit of time and feels like writing
When: Now.
Where: um, there might be a comm or comms coming. But, you know. On the internet.

Telling SyFy where they can shove their plot point of a bodyswap fic where someone uses the lesbian's body to fuck a man (I wish I were kidding) might also be in order.

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i started reading the latest Author Fail and really got sad in a big hurry. i read some of his packpedaling, and even that is so offensive. One doesn't even know where to start.

And I'm just appalled at the SGU plot. I don't think there's any way to wire around that.

I'm just going to back away slowly now and stay in my closed canon and read fanfic, kaythnx.

*wails*

Edited 2009-08-14 21:18 (UTC)

*sends JDN/Cammie vibes of lovingkindness*

Very appropriate icon.

THE STUPID, IT BURNS.

Really and truly.

Cool idea. :D

Het is fine as long as it's kinky and not with people who are lesbians in canon.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but are you saying het with canonically gay male characters is okay?

That's probably not good either.

That's what I was thinking. :)

And corrected in the call for fic!

A comment I read somewhere else about the whole bodyswap thing pointed something out to me: the sexuality is a red herring. This next part are my interpretation of what the poster said. If you're focusing on the body's normal inhabitant's sexuality, then you're missing the bigger picture that someone is getting raped here.

It doesn't matter how willing the body's current occupant is - it isn't their body. Using it to fix the ship so everyone, including the usual occupant, lives, that's fine. Using it to get busy with someone, anyone, regardless of sexuality, is not. If a straight woman swapped with another straight woman, then slept with someone, is that less reprehensible than a straight into a lesbian and doing the same thing?

I desperately hope that the body's owner gave consent prior to the swap.

Yeah, that's a good point. (I just remembered, now that you mentioned it: this is something that is addressed in Buffy season 4.)

Telling SyFy where they can shove their plot point of a bodyswap fic where someone uses the lesbian's body to fuck a man (I wish I were kidding) might also be in order.

Actually, I read the article you pointed to, and the Stargate people's response to it, and I honestly don't see a damned thing wrong with it. Hell, in BtVS, when Faith body-swapped with Buffy, she slept with Buffy's BOYFRIEND...which, if you're all wrapped up in the original owner of the body's relationships, should have been fine. The issue, however, is the person running the body is NOT the owner of the body, which means it doesn't matter what the sexuality of the owner of the body is...any sexual act done by the body while not under control of the owner, unless approved of before hand, is essentially rape. Or at least severely morally questionable.

And I don't see how a heterosexual using a lesbian's body for heterosexual sex is somehow worse than using the body for sex with someone it's already had sex with. Still wrong. And since that moral dilemma is something they want to deal with, the orientation shouldn't matter.

That's what we're fighting for, isn't it? For orientation, gender, race, to NOT MATTER?! For people to quit worrying about it?

So why does our side of the fight throw as many hissy fits about it as they do?

Since it still matters here and now where the show is being created and broadcast, I would like to have something approaching proportional, positive representation, of not just people (which, given the cast size, the show may do), but also for the sex we are having (or not having).

A married lesbian whose wife is off Way Beyond Somewhere is coming off as a very slick way to wiggle out of having to portray even fade-to-black lesbian sex. I am hoping that she at least gets flashback sex with her wife, but I am not expecting it.

Given that the Stargate series is not in the habit of showing people having sex AT ALL, I'm perfectly happy with what they seem to be planning.

But the issue I was discussing was the body swap brouhaha, and I just can't see what the fuss is about. Sorry.

Of course, I don't actually grok hetero OR homosexuality, so I sometimes don't understand why people get all fussy about sexuality at all. It does occasionally annoy me to hang out with a group of homosexuals and feel insulted by the clearly negative term "breeder" (which was used, but supposedly "welcoming" in the open letter referred to) because let's face it, *somebody* has to reproduce. I honestly have felt more often ostracized among gay folks (despite the fact that the acronym often bandied about includes bisexual, it's been my personal experience that gay folks often think "bisexual" is just another word for "indecisive"...though I admit that personal experience is not statistically significant) than I have among heterosexuals who know I'm bi.

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