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Azure Jane Lunatic (Azz) 🌺 ([personal profile] azurelunatic) wrote2010-08-10 12:33 am

Warning for gay sex (why this is bad and wrong and needs to be stopped)

Reminder: specifically warning for male/male sex, even if you also warn for male/female sex, sends a bit the wrong message when happened across in isolation.

Warning for sex (especially explicit sex vs. some foreplay and fade-to-black) is appreciated and appropriate.

Description of the sex involved, with as many descriptive bits as the people around seem to be in need of, including who is having the sex, what kind of sex they are having, and the gender, sex, or both, of all involved, is also appreciated and appropriate.

An adult (adult-by-behavior, specifically) can look at a description and summary and decide whether or not, by the description, this particular thing is for them.

Basically, when you warn for same-sex sexyfuntimes, and state that it's a warning, you're not just providing a neutral description of the contents. You are explicitly saying, "I am buying into the meme that same-sex sexyfuntimes is alarming and bad!" even though you are writing it and you know that people will read it. You are catering to the concept that people who are squicked by it are totally right to be squicked by it and a lot of people are squicked by it and we don't blame you for being squicked by it, it's nasty gay sex.

Some people are squicked by it, and if they don't want to read it, that's their business; as long as they don't dispute my right to have sex in any way I choose to with any other consenting adult or adults, nor the right of my virtual brother and his partner to have sex (though really, I could do without the details there; virtual family doesn't make them less family -- this is one instance of same-sex smut that I really really don't need to read), nor the right of any other adults to have delightful vanilla, kinky, smutty, consensual sexy funtimes -- then that's their business whether they seek it out or avoid it.

But, for fuck's sake, I will not cater to people who declare that gay sex needs more warnings than straight sex, nor do I even want to appear to cater to them by allowing a warning about sex (that happens to be gay) to read as if it were a warning for OMG GAY sex.

If you happen to do this, I will probably not speak to you personally about it, because most practically, I will either forget to do it, forget who I've already reminded and entirely not remind some people at all, and remind others ten times, or (alas) only remember when something else annoys me, like when I just don't like somebody's icon or something. And that would be wankier than I want to actually be. And goodness knows that there are probably some warnings like that in my back catalog. But going forward, I don't want to keep perpetuating this meme. And if you do see me do it, poke me.
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[personal profile] attie 2010-08-12 10:33 am (UTC)(link)
The urge to segregate was strong at the time. There were also the epic shipwars... in that context I can definitely see how it can exclude. I do read het as well, and I don't feel that it negates my right to a place in slash fandom, but then I am very much used to finding one of my interests met with a resounding 'EW' in spaces reserved for another interest (try introducing a roomful of engineering students to RPS, it's fun!)
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[personal profile] summerskin 2010-08-12 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I stayed clear of shipwars, even though I'm prone to OTPs. I tend to just read whatever is well-written and be convinced of the most unlikely pairings--always have been this way about fandom. Overall, I managed not to be an arsehole about this. So yay.

I remember when I used to find something like "rated R, no language, no sex, rated for gay romance" or similar in fic headings. Made my brain explode back then, too. Urg.
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[personal profile] attie 2010-08-12 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
That's... actually consistent with how the MPAA uses these ratings, last I heard (a few years ago)? Which doesn't make it less headdesk-worthy, but yeah.