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azurelunatic) wrote2011-02-26 11:17 pm
azurelunatic) wrote2011-02-26 11:17 pm
(Old stuff: December 12-13) George.
Sunday, December 12
Mathsie dropped off the radar, but![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
khasael has been keeping in regular touch via phone. Drop comments at her (in journal or on twitter, @khasael) to relay, until such time as Mathsie is back in range of the internet.
My aunt canceled plans to hang out on account of emergency knitting. I therefore headed out to get some damn shoes, since my previous walking shoes had started to make my feet really amazingly hurt. I looked at the high heels and thought I found a nice pair. I tried them from store to car. I realized that there was a problem, and complained about it. I hate shoes.
I became aware of Google's Cr-48 laptop, which lacks a caps lock key, in favor of a search key. (However, there's a way to make it turn into a caps lock key.) I seethed in deep envy of everyone who got a Cr-48, as most of them seemed to be prominent tech bloggers, though some of them not that much more awesome than me.
http://www.google.com/chromeos/pilot-program-cr48.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/chrome-os-laptop-cr-48-netbook,11786.html
December 13
I was having a bit of a bad day. I was supposed to go hang out with my aunt, but there was an HTML5 talk with the Silicon Valley Google Technology Users Group, and I figured I might as well go to that, since it was networky and I could maybe learn a little about HTML5, since Fu had been talking about it in channel.
So I collected myself and went, chatting with people around me. I'd been learning at the various meetups that actually some of my soft skills that are connected to tech -- like the ability to do Dreamwidth code tours, or the time I went through nearly a year of mailing list posts to distill a list of Dreamwidth Support & Development Principles from![[staff profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user_staff.png)
denise's commentary there. So I'd been working on my "elevator pitch" of myself as an awesome minion. So that was fun.
There was a fairly short HTML5 presentation. I was mildly disappointed, as HTML5 had been billed as the top attraction for the meeting. There was IndexedDB spec stuff, and I contemplated possible uses for it.
Then the guy with the ChromeOS notebook, the Cr-48, came out, and began telling us about it. I got chatty on Twitter. As I relayed to IRC later:
[21:43] <Azz> OH MY GOD YOU GUYS, OH MY GOD.
[21:43] <foxfirefey> WHAT
[21:43] <Azz> CR48
[21:43] <JDC> o_O
[21:43] <vlion> You got one?
[21:43] <Azz> Yes.
[21:44] <vlion> Can I touch you?
[21:44] <jld> O_o
[21:44] <gchick> CAN I TOUCH THE CR48?
[21:44] <JDC> oh it's a google netbook.
[21:44] <Azz> I went to a tech talk that was ostensibly about HTML5, I thought that would be good for me even though I am not a dev, I could help understand new shiny for DW and suggestions and all.
[21:45] <vlion> yes.
[21:45] <Azz> and then the HTML5 guy only had 14 slides.
[21:45] <jld> YOU GET BEES! AND YOU GET BEES! EVERYONE GETS BEES!
[ed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNhoFaHU3_A ]
[21:46] * JDC Oprah strut
[21:46] <Azz> and then the ChromeOS guy came in and was doing a quick talk and he had more slides and then he set up a new one, and I was wondering if maybe they were going to give some away.
[I was thinking one, or maybe two.]
[21:46] <Azz> and then then he said "Yeah, everyone in the room gets one. This is your Oprah moment."
[21:46] <Azz> so there was general squeeing
[21:47] <jld> heh.
[21:47] <jld> BEES.
[21:47] * Azz allows herself and her new shiny to be touched
[21:47] <exor674> Azz: had a chacne to see how DW looks on it?
[21:47] <Azz> Not yet! I have just got home; they were shooing people out by the time mine was set up.
[21:47] * vlion has envy
[21:47] <vlion> is it awesome?
[21:48] <foxfirefey> Hahaha
[21:48] <exor674> I'm assuming it'd have the same kinda issues my Eee has, due to screensize constraints
[21:48] <exor674> DW gets a little weird at lower-then-standard font size
[21:48] <exor674> ( well, TONS of sites do *g* )
[21:48] <Azz> It looks actually nearly laptop sized.
[21:48] <JDC> good.
[21:48] <exor674> isn't it a what 12" screen?
[21:48] <JDC> i'm so tired of this "lol teensy laptop" phase
[21:50] * Azz is speaking a full octave above normal, and giggling a lot
[21:52] <exor674> I'm not sure if I like the point of Chrome OS really, IIRC, when I looked into it ages ago, it's just some linux distro with a forced maximized chrome -- what's the point of a laptop that is JUST a browser ( or do the things do other things now? )
[21:53] <exor674> ( guess that could be fine if you were just a web user but not so great for power users )
[21:54] <vlion`> If I can't develop on a machine, it makes me sad
[21:55] <Azz> There's what sounds like some serious security checking on a hardware level, on this particular model. The dude explained it; there's a very hard firmware thing that can't be altered except by physical removal (or, likely, catastrophe, but apparently not programatically) and if the OS doesn't check out on startup, it wipes it, restores from local hard image, and restores you.
[21:55] <vlion`> A jumper? ;)
[21:55] <Azz> All your stuff is stored online in profile, except for a bitty download folder.
[21:55] <JDC> they probably want to avoid apple's iphone4 bar thing.
[21:55] <Azz> There's a jailbreak switch under the battery.
[21:56] <vlion`> Is that the firmware protection thing?
[21:57] <Azz> as I understand it, those are separate?
[21:57] <vlion`> Oh. Interesting. Huh.
[21:57] <vlion`> are you going to take the shell off and poke it?
[21:58] <Azz> Probably not? I am not a terribly hardware kind of person, and I get nervous taking apart anything smaller than a desktop.
[21:59] * JDC puts away the Operation game
[22:00] <exor674> but no native apps?
[22:01] <Azz> Chrome apps.
[22:02] <Azz> Part of tonight's talk was on developing for Chrome, and new evolving standards on user-side database integration?
[22:02] <Azz> stuff that's a little more powerful/flexible than SQLite.
[22:03] <vlion`> Interesting
[22:03] <Azz> and I'm wondering if some of the apps developed for Chrome and ChromeOS wouldn't also be able to be run on GoogleTV
[22:03] <Azz> since that's basically Chrome inna box.
[22:04] <Azz> and some of the devs at the GoogleTV intro presentation were making pointed inquiries about whether GoogleTV and Android apps would be cross-compatible; the guy dodged those questions then.
[22:05] <jld> Some DW styles get weird at 800px across and arguful at 480px across, because of sidebars.
[22:05] <jld> "arghful", even.
[22:06] <exor674> I'm not sure if I exactly like this movement to everything in cloud, everything in browser -- I'd like to see the people working on the movement try to develop an in-browser app using only in-browser apps >_<
[22:06] <jld> exor674: That is an interesting way of looking at it.
[22:07] <vlion`> *grunts* thin client come, thin client go
[22:07] <Azz> There were some people talking about Other Thin Clients We Have Known
[22:10] *** exor674 has quit IRC: *.net *.split
[22:13] * exor674 bites freenode in the face --- as I was about to say I'm totally okay with storing things in cloud, just not the only copy of things!
I called my friends on the way home. I wound up talking withamberfox. I was debating what to call it, and then I said "And I'm going to love it, and squeeze it, and -- Oh. I think it just named itself." I then determined that yes, this was actually going to be George as in Georgia. As in Mason. As in, the laptop had better not wind up like her namesake, or I'll be cranky.
Mathsie dropped off the radar, but
khasael has been keeping in regular touch via phone. Drop comments at her (in journal or on twitter, @khasael) to relay, until such time as Mathsie is back in range of the internet. My aunt canceled plans to hang out on account of emergency knitting. I therefore headed out to get some damn shoes, since my previous walking shoes had started to make my feet really amazingly hurt. I looked at the high heels and thought I found a nice pair. I tried them from store to car. I realized that there was a problem, and complained about it. I hate shoes.
I became aware of Google's Cr-48 laptop, which lacks a caps lock key, in favor of a search key. (However, there's a way to make it turn into a caps lock key.) I seethed in deep envy of everyone who got a Cr-48, as most of them seemed to be prominent tech bloggers, though some of them not that much more awesome than me.
http://www.google.com/chromeos/pilot-program-cr48.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/chrome-os-laptop-cr-48-netbook,11786.html
December 13
I was having a bit of a bad day. I was supposed to go hang out with my aunt, but there was an HTML5 talk with the Silicon Valley Google Technology Users Group, and I figured I might as well go to that, since it was networky and I could maybe learn a little about HTML5, since Fu had been talking about it in channel.
So I collected myself and went, chatting with people around me. I'd been learning at the various meetups that actually some of my soft skills that are connected to tech -- like the ability to do Dreamwidth code tours, or the time I went through nearly a year of mailing list posts to distill a list of Dreamwidth Support & Development Principles from
denise's commentary there. So I'd been working on my "elevator pitch" of myself as an awesome minion. So that was fun. There was a fairly short HTML5 presentation. I was mildly disappointed, as HTML5 had been billed as the top attraction for the meeting. There was IndexedDB spec stuff, and I contemplated possible uses for it.
Then the guy with the ChromeOS notebook, the Cr-48, came out, and began telling us about it. I got chatty on Twitter. As I relayed to IRC later:
[21:43] <Azz> OH MY GOD YOU GUYS, OH MY GOD.
[21:43] <foxfirefey> WHAT
[21:43] <Azz> CR48
[21:43] <JDC> o_O
[21:43] <vlion> You got one?
[21:43] <Azz> Yes.
[21:44] <vlion> Can I touch you?
[21:44] <jld> O_o
[21:44] <gchick> CAN I TOUCH THE CR48?
[21:44] <JDC> oh it's a google netbook.
[21:44] <Azz> I went to a tech talk that was ostensibly about HTML5, I thought that would be good for me even though I am not a dev, I could help understand new shiny for DW and suggestions and all.
[21:45] <vlion> yes.
[21:45] <Azz> and then the HTML5 guy only had 14 slides.
[21:45] <jld> YOU GET BEES! AND YOU GET BEES! EVERYONE GETS BEES!
[ed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNhoFaHU3_A ]
[21:46] * JDC Oprah strut
[21:46] <Azz> and then the ChromeOS guy came in and was doing a quick talk and he had more slides and then he set up a new one, and I was wondering if maybe they were going to give some away.
[I was thinking one, or maybe two.]
[21:46] <Azz> and then then he said "Yeah, everyone in the room gets one. This is your Oprah moment."
[21:46] <Azz> so there was general squeeing
[21:47] <jld> heh.
[21:47] <jld> BEES.
[21:47] * Azz allows herself and her new shiny to be touched
[21:47] <exor674> Azz: had a chacne to see how DW looks on it?
[21:47] <Azz> Not yet! I have just got home; they were shooing people out by the time mine was set up.
[21:47] * vlion has envy
[21:47] <vlion> is it awesome?
[21:48] <foxfirefey> Hahaha
[21:48] <exor674> I'm assuming it'd have the same kinda issues my Eee has, due to screensize constraints
[21:48] <exor674> DW gets a little weird at lower-then-standard font size
[21:48] <exor674> ( well, TONS of sites do *g* )
[21:48] <Azz> It looks actually nearly laptop sized.
[21:48] <JDC> good.
[21:48] <exor674> isn't it a what 12" screen?
[21:48] <JDC> i'm so tired of this "lol teensy laptop" phase
[21:50] * Azz is speaking a full octave above normal, and giggling a lot
[21:52] <exor674> I'm not sure if I like the point of Chrome OS really, IIRC, when I looked into it ages ago, it's just some linux distro with a forced maximized chrome -- what's the point of a laptop that is JUST a browser ( or do the things do other things now? )
[21:53] <exor674> ( guess that could be fine if you were just a web user but not so great for power users )
[21:54] <vlion`> If I can't develop on a machine, it makes me sad
[21:55] <Azz> There's what sounds like some serious security checking on a hardware level, on this particular model. The dude explained it; there's a very hard firmware thing that can't be altered except by physical removal (or, likely, catastrophe, but apparently not programatically) and if the OS doesn't check out on startup, it wipes it, restores from local hard image, and restores you.
[21:55] <vlion`> A jumper? ;)
[21:55] <Azz> All your stuff is stored online in profile, except for a bitty download folder.
[21:55] <JDC> they probably want to avoid apple's iphone4 bar thing.
[21:55] <Azz> There's a jailbreak switch under the battery.
[21:56] <vlion`> Is that the firmware protection thing?
[21:57] <Azz> as I understand it, those are separate?
[21:57] <vlion`> Oh. Interesting. Huh.
[21:57] <vlion`> are you going to take the shell off and poke it?
[21:58] <Azz> Probably not? I am not a terribly hardware kind of person, and I get nervous taking apart anything smaller than a desktop.
[21:59] * JDC puts away the Operation game
[22:00] <exor674> but no native apps?
[22:01] <Azz> Chrome apps.
[22:02] <Azz> Part of tonight's talk was on developing for Chrome, and new evolving standards on user-side database integration?
[22:02] <Azz> stuff that's a little more powerful/flexible than SQLite.
[22:03] <vlion`> Interesting
[22:03] <Azz> and I'm wondering if some of the apps developed for Chrome and ChromeOS wouldn't also be able to be run on GoogleTV
[22:03] <Azz> since that's basically Chrome inna box.
[22:04] <Azz> and some of the devs at the GoogleTV intro presentation were making pointed inquiries about whether GoogleTV and Android apps would be cross-compatible; the guy dodged those questions then.
[22:05] <jld> Some DW styles get weird at 800px across and arguful at 480px across, because of sidebars.
[22:05] <jld> "arghful", even.
[22:06] <exor674> I'm not sure if I exactly like this movement to everything in cloud, everything in browser -- I'd like to see the people working on the movement try to develop an in-browser app using only in-browser apps >_<
[22:06] <jld> exor674: That is an interesting way of looking at it.
[22:07] <vlion`> *grunts* thin client come, thin client go
[22:07] <Azz> There were some people talking about Other Thin Clients We Have Known
[22:10] *** exor674 has quit IRC: *.net *.split
[22:13] * exor674 bites freenode in the face --- as I was about to say I'm totally okay with storing things in cloud, just not the only copy of things!
I called my friends on the way home. I wound up talking with
amberfox. I was debating what to call it, and then I said "And I'm going to love it, and squeeze it, and -- Oh. I think it just named itself." I then determined that yes, this was actually going to be George as in Georgia. As in Mason. As in, the laptop had better not wind up like her namesake, or I'll be cranky.
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