azurelunatic | Nattering; this one isn't ready for Suggestions yet. Community-specific profiles for users.

So the user has a profile, and the comm has a profile, and this is a completely out of left field and wild idea that is technically a bit unlikely, so bear with me.

You can see the comms that the user is a member of on the profile. (Mostly.) You can see the users that a comm is a member of. Sometimes a user has specialty interests and bio that they want to show to other comm members but don't necessarily think is worth/for public consumption of their regular profile.

Like, where I intersect with Vorkosigan comms, I want to list that I was a member of the List since 1997 or thereabouts, maybe 1996, and that I sorta drifted away but I'm still reading and happy and alive and all. And all sorts of fannish details that aren't relevant to the main part of my life as expressed on LJ.

It would be so damn nifty (and such a fucking pain for the user to keep updated, and such a fucking technical pain probably) to be able to enter a separate bio and interests for each place I intersect a community.

I don't know if I would want the bio/interests visible to non-members (and here we run into security issues, because if it's an open comm, well...) (but then some open comms ask for member introductions, and yes you have to search for them but) but again you could do the link-to-locked-entry (or in this case members-only entry) dodge if it's public.

And it would be simply ace to be able to do interests searches and search from the interests of either/both the general public, and the community-specific interests of people in the same communities as you. You already have at least one point of contact.

OK, people, tear it to shreds. I want it plausible.

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Workaround: put the info for one community in an unlocked post on your own journal. Link to each of those posts on your profile.
Or some comms have introduction posts. Link to your (locked or unlocked) intro post on your profile.

It's great as a workaround, but that's not really the sort of feedback I was looking for.

and such a fucking pain for the user to keep updated

Yeah, that was my first thought. My second thought was, OMG, I don't even have anything in my actual bio! And my third thought was, well, most people probably won't fill it out, so it would be really really important to only show a link if there was any content, otherwise clicking would soon become an exercise in futility and no one would bother.

Not sure any of that's helpful, though. *g*

Very helpful.

For maximum usefulness, then, this would want to be offered at the time of community join (join, add, set interests and bio); the community's own interests and popular community-specific interests entered by others would be offered as a starter (make it easy), and there'd be a bio form right there.

It would also be necessary to have a page with all of them (or make it paginate properly if the user is a member of a stupid number of comms like I am) so someone could go on down the line and do things. To make it useful it should have the community bio in a scrollybox so you don't have to go back to the comm to see wtf. I'm envisioning a three-column thing (which might be bad for screen readers idk) with comm name and scrollybox for the comm bio, a text entry box for your own comm bio, text entry box with comm interests. If the community default userpic ever happens, this would be the page on which to put management of it.

A page like this couldn't be too long or people would lose large amounts of work if the page expired. It should be expiration-trapped like DW comment pages which I love very so.

And yes, it should only show for readers if there is content, very exactly so.

Hmm. Some of the information I'd have put in there would have been applicable to members of community foo, but not if they're also members of community bar (or conversely), and the information for foo&!bar may contradict the informatin for bar&!foo. This would make it very hard for members of both, unless I mention the conflict and how to resolve it. Now picture this, with 50 comunities instead of 2. (And that isn't even considering 3-way interactions.)

Are you envisioning this as one single profile per user? Because I'm not. I'm envisioning this as one profile per user:community pair.

Or... perhaps the social information you give to different communities is vastly different than the way I would use it.

Probably the later. (It's not applicable anymore, but I was thinking of volunteer communities.)

Given communities A, B, and C, where there is a direct hierarchy, I would give general information to A, more specific information to B with the added information that this trumps the information for A if one can *see* B, and most-specific information for C, and add that it trumps A and B.

I guess I have had very little trouble organizing and compartmentalizing my own information properly, just occasionally had to deal with systems that did not allow for the kind of organization I wanted.

... that, and I might also state that this information is for the sorts of things that one gets up to in A; if there are other situations covered by other comms, see the information for that particular comm.

FWIW, I really hate column layouts - they're a pain on smaller monitors, they never look balanced, and as you say, they're probably not good for screenreaders either. Not to mention that any images in there would break any width adjustment and likely result in horizontal scroll bars (argh! hate them!). And I'm not sure the comm bio in a scrollbox would be so great - some comm bios are very long, and they'd be practically unreadable that way. Apart from that, sounds good!

Okay, so single column with three sections for each comm.

I like the idea of comm bio in a scrollbox so if there's any confusion about what comm this is again, you don't have to leave the page, but neither do you have to scroll all the heck way down on *your* page because the comm bio is kilometers long. It's not really intended to be easy to read, just easy reference, like the first few paragraphs, just in the box so it doesn't break anything if it is ass-long, and have any horizontal scrollbars be in the comm bio box and not on the whole page. (As in, I know it's bad but other ways might be worse.)

Okay, so single column with three sections for each comm.

Yeah, that I can see work.

Maybe you could have the comm bio collapsible, to get it completely out of the way if it isn't needed as reference.

Maybe a context sensitive hoover link instead?

(What I really want is a way to find which friends people have in common without resorting to raw data wrangling or third party applications.)

I like the contextual hover menu as a thing with commands, but I'm not so sure about using it to convey more than a few lines of information.

Also, yay for friends in common. I do like knowing where social groups are.

Nattering; this one isn't ready for Suggestions yet. Community-specific profiles for users.

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