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azurelunatic) wrote2009-07-17 07:51 am
azurelunatic) wrote2009-07-17 07:51 am
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PSA: Pingbacks for all!
LiveJournal now features pingbacks for all users, not just paid users. Pingback settings can be managed from the Privacy settings tab. It defaults to off, I believe, so if you haven't set it, you won't be surprised. You can also override pingback settings on a post by post basis, if you feel like being more public or more stealth than usual.
How it works:
A pingback is sort of like a trackback, except automatic. (Okay, 80% of the audience just had their eyes glaze over.)
Pingbacks are based on the concept that if you link to someone else's entry in public (or if they link to yours), you'd want to let them know, and you'd want to know if someone else is talking about your entry. Even better, you want to leave a link to your post on their post to maybe get some of their readers over on your entry.
So you make a public post and you have pingbacks turned on (for your whole journal, or just that post). It has a link to somebody else's post. "Oho! A link!" LJ says, upon you posting it. "I wonder what's at the other end of that shiny little link?"
LJ then pokes the link with a stick to see if the other end of the link does the pingback thing. (If it's on LJ, it's easy to tell.If it's off LJ, LJ sends out a "Hey, y'all do pingbacks? If so, here you go!" request, and hopes for the best. Evidently it's only on-LJ now. They changed it while I wasn't looking!)
If the other site doesn't do pingbacks, LJ shrugs its shoulders and soldiers on. If it does, the other site goes, "Hey, thanks! ...uh, just to be sure, you really do have a link to me, right?" and prods your entry to make sure that you've got a legit link to them and aren't likely to be a spammer just saying you have a pingback.
Assuming all is good, the other site lets the blog owner know that hey! They have someone linking to them! OMG! and in short order, a little blurb saying something like "Some random guy at a blog you've never heard of linked to you! '...and in other news, I found a cool link: [link goes here] and zomg, what, and also ...'" shows up.
In turn, when someone else links to you (and you both have pingbacks turned on), a screened comment from![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
pingback_bot shows up on your entry.
I recommend you turn this on if: you're participating in a large, wide-ranging discussion, and/or you wouldn't mind if the original poster and/or all their commenters followed the link back to chat with you in your post.
I recommend you turn this off if: you're making a catty public post, or any other situation where you would not want the original poster and/or all their commenters to join in or necessarily even know that the post exists.
It doesn't matter if: your post is not public -- pingbacks are off for all locked posts.
This post is brought to you by another round of multifannish discussion and friendly commenters coming in and mentioning where they're being linked from, and a general lack of pingbacks from the places that are linking. (Except you, 'song.)
How it works:
A pingback is sort of like a trackback, except automatic. (Okay, 80% of the audience just had their eyes glaze over.)
Pingbacks are based on the concept that if you link to someone else's entry in public (or if they link to yours), you'd want to let them know, and you'd want to know if someone else is talking about your entry. Even better, you want to leave a link to your post on their post to maybe get some of their readers over on your entry.
So you make a public post and you have pingbacks turned on (for your whole journal, or just that post). It has a link to somebody else's post. "Oho! A link!" LJ says, upon you posting it. "I wonder what's at the other end of that shiny little link?"
LJ then pokes the link with a stick to see if the other end of the link does the pingback thing. (If it's on LJ, it's easy to tell.
If the other site doesn't do pingbacks, LJ shrugs its shoulders and soldiers on. If it does, the other site goes, "Hey, thanks! ...uh, just to be sure, you really do have a link to me, right?" and prods your entry to make sure that you've got a legit link to them and aren't likely to be a spammer just saying you have a pingback.
Assuming all is good, the other site lets the blog owner know that hey! They have someone linking to them! OMG! and in short order, a little blurb saying something like "Some random guy at a blog you've never heard of linked to you! '...and in other news, I found a cool link: [link goes here] and zomg, what, and also ...'" shows up.
In turn, when someone else links to you (and you both have pingbacks turned on), a screened comment from
pingback_bot shows up on your entry. I recommend you turn this on if: you're participating in a large, wide-ranging discussion, and/or you wouldn't mind if the original poster and/or all their commenters followed the link back to chat with you in your post.
I recommend you turn this off if: you're making a catty public post, or any other situation where you would not want the original poster and/or all their commenters to join in or necessarily even know that the post exists.
It doesn't matter if: your post is not public -- pingbacks are off for all locked posts.
This post is brought to you by another round of multifannish discussion and friendly commenters coming in and mentioning where they're being linked from, and a general lack of pingbacks from the places that are linking. (Except you, 'song.)
Now everybody can make pingbacks, not just paid accounts
Re: Now everybody can make pingbacks, not just paid accounts
Re: Now everybody can make pingbacks, not just paid accounts
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It does? I thought pingbacks were intra-LJ only for now.
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You know, I think I remember that too. When I first saw the cute
PSA: Pingbacks For Everybody
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...I hope that made sense.
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My off-the-top-of-the-head guess would be "maybe" -- it can take up to 15 minutes for a pingback to show if it's going to show (there are places where it is broken, though this typically takes the form of it not working at all when it should, rather than working when it shouldn't), so I suppose it could potentially depend on whether the crucial part of the process has already passed.
I'm going to point Support IRC at this, point the docs crew at this, and recommend a support request for formal documentation of the question.
(edit: where "formal documentation" is documentation that you asked it in management's eyes, rather than in userdoc's eyes.)
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[16:13] remark: the ping gets lost in a hole in spacetime, echoing into an eternal ping, which will fill the hole in spacetime resulting in a constant ping emission
[16:13] remark: all of livejournal will get pung
[16:13] remark: eternally
[16:13] Azz: is this ringing an eternal ping?
[16:13] remark: yes
[16:14] Azz: "constant ping emission" sounds like something you'd take your car into the shop for
[16:14] Azz: I don't think Tupshin would stand for it
[16:14] Azz: nor Ounree
[16:16] remark: and yet there's nothing they can do about it, except to move the site into an alternative universe where no such ping exists
[16:17] remark: and hope that the wall in spacetime is strong enough to keep this particular ping out
[16:17] remark: simple physics
[16:17] Azz: oho
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[16:18] aveleh: Azz: I'd imagine the same thing if you post public with full RSS entries and then realized a judgement in error and edit.
[16:18] aveleh: But that is just a guess.
[16:19] aveleh: uh.. error in judgement. not judgement in error
[16:19] Azz: or it could be "realized that your judgment was in error"
[16:19] Azz: if you thought it was a good thing and then changed your mind very fast
[16:21] Azz: Probably the answer (my friends) is a code dive.
[16:21] Azz: (the answer is diving in the code)
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[16:22] remark: The only way to fix it is to wipe the disk array
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