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Azure Jane Lunatic (Azz) 🌺 ([personal profile] azurelunatic) wrote2013-08-24 02:05 pm

Nattering about names

(in reaction to a thing making the rounds about "seriously, you call this one girl ' Lady Gaga'; why is it so hard to respect Chelsea Manning's declared new name?")

Name choice is always going to be very personal and it's important enough that it needs to be respected. Human nature says that there always will be people who declare their name is something obnoxious, offensive, or obscene just to fuck with the people playing by the rules, but it is so important to the people who are not fucking with the public that it needs to remain open. This is the sort of thing where people need to allow first, and only disallow after establishing bad faith.

The problem with that is that some fuckwads assume that anyone identifying as a gender they weren't assigned at birth is inherently acting in bad faith. Those people are fuckwads and also incorrect.

There are other, less fuckwaddy but still Wrong On And Off The Internet folks who point out that there can be a lot of trying on names but not having them stick during any transitional period that involves names, AND THEREFORE (and this is why they are wrong) nobody should bother to learn and use the new name until it is certain to be permanent.

Name churn is an inconvenience and possibly a cognitive challenge for surrounding people, but the ill effects of being called the wrong name are bad enough to justify insisting. Generally people are socialized against certain forms of inconvenience to others, so there is already gatekeeping against frivolous requests. Enough so that sometimes people put up with being called a name that does not suit until they go somewhere else, to spare others confusion at their own expense.

Frivolous namechanging is its own punishment. I asked to be called Tasha in one high school class because I thought it would be fun/cute. It was distinctly unpleasant to be called the wrong name for that hour of the day that semester. I was hesitant once I found a name I thought fit, because what if I got it wrong? What if it didn't fit and I had to change again or change back?
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[personal profile] snippy 2013-08-25 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
I have hated the name my parents gave me at birth for as long as I can remember. Not only does it include a family-specific insult, it just didn't fit me.

In 2004 my mother died and I went to a bunch of therapy and decided I was ready to change my name. And I spent months figuring out my new name and then I went to court (which is a whole 'nother story including the court clerk being my ex-husband's cousin which apparently amused the judge considerably) and changed to my new name. Which I love and which honors somebody important to me as well as fitting me and feeling like me when people call me it. And they do! It was one of the best compliments I've ever received, how quickly all my friends and coworkers called me my new, real name quite happily.

I had to wait until I was 43 to change my name, but it was worth finding my own name.
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[personal profile] trixieleitz 2013-08-25 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
It occurs to me that name churn is likely to be exacerbated by fuckwaddish misnamery, at least in some cases.
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[personal profile] trixieleitz 2013-08-25 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, probably should have developed that a bit more. I was thinking of a situation along the lines of:
  1. Our Protagonist (OP) announces that they will henceforth be known by Newname.
  2. Fuckwad (FW) refuses to believe that OP is serious in their wish to go by Newname, oldnames OP repeatedly, and (because they are a fuckwad), creates Drahmah every time they are corrected.
  3. OP finds that the emotional burden of transitioning to Newname in the presence of FW is heavier than the emotional burden of going by Oldname.
  4. OP gives up and reverts to being known by Oldname.
  5. FW goes, ah-ah, told you so, there was never any point making an effort to call OP Newname because they were never serious about transitioning in the first place.
  6. FW and any observing FWs have their prejudices about people who wish to change their name confirmed
  7. The next person who wishes to go by another name who encounters any of these FWs is taken even less seriously and has to work even harder to make the transition succeed.

I'm not saying that everyone who encounters fuckwads when they try to change their name gives up. I'm saying that it makes their transition harder. It's also possible that I've misunderstood what you mean by name churn :)
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[personal profile] mmegaera 2013-08-25 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
I never did like my given name because it's been the most popular women's name in the English-speaking world (and most of Europe if you allow the translations) literally for a couple of millenia, and I sincerely don't like being one of a crowd (there were three girls with my name in my first grade class and it just got worse from there).

So when I got divorced the first time (and was changing my surname back, anyway), I wrote down my first and middle names, then got out the baby name books and wrote down every nickname and variation of both names that I could find, then I chose my new name from that list. It's a nickname for my middle name (my official documents all have my first initial and my new name now).

My sister then said, and I quote, "Why would you do this? It's like me asking everyone to call me Katie." (her middle name is Kathleen). I just stared at her, because as per usual I didn't come up with the correct punch line until three in the morning. Which is, of course, "and your point is?"

Almost half my lifetime later, she's been calling me by my name for years now. The only person who still calls me by my first name is my mother. To paraphrase something Miles Vorkosigan once said (since I love my mother and I'm not going to call her a b@stard [g]), some people you just have to outlive. Hopefully not for a while yet, though.
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[personal profile] vass 2013-08-25 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. All of this.

Earlier this year I realised that I actually could change my name, that this was okay even thought I don't have a 'proper reason', and I've since picked out my new name and... not jumped yet. Because of name churn (that's a great term for it. Worse than churning your ISP, worse than moving house and changing your details for that everywhere!)
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[personal profile] silveradept 2013-08-25 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Names are important. And like everything else, there would be a trial period while one seeks the name that is exactly right, like one test drives vehicles and examines multiple houses or apartments before choosing one to live in. Since names are expensive to change, why not make sure that the one you want fits correctly?