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Azure Jane Lunatic (Azz) 🌺 ([personal profile] azurelunatic) wrote2002-06-27 10:58 am

Again, a needed-to-be-said.

So, “One Nation, Under God, Indivisible” has had the “Under God” part of it snipped out. Looking through my friends pages, I see all sorts of opinions, not at all the semi-chorus of almost-consensus on the opinion that I might expect from minds that get along with mine. So the courts have said that this inserted line is a Bad Thing. People wonder about the sanctity of old favorite songs such as “God Bless America”. I hate to say this, fans, but every time I sing that song, either I sing “GODS”, plural, as loud as I can, or else I don’t sing. It’s by no means as universal a favorite as some people might like to think. Sure it’ll still get air time after this, but maybe not as much, if you’ve got to hold a Betan vote before you sing it in any sort of official capacity. Anybody got a nice rousing USAdian patriotic song from any other religion? Hm. I’m feeling a Wiccan patriotic song filking in my blood, suddenly.

But religion is such a hot button for many, many people. There’s one young lady on the LMB list who flames up any time a button of hers is pushed. Religion’s one of the buttons. There are people who just can’t help responding when the topic under discussion is something they care passionately about.

Perhaps it would help if I took a few bytes from TBQ’s blog and changed the topic a little. Let’s talk about chocolate.
"...The fact that I'm not talking about that brown stuff which comes inside of a Hershey's wrapper does not, in any way, mean I'm denying the existance of chocolate. It means I'm not talking about chocolate. Chocolate will continue to exist whether or not I talk about it."
And then, one could wonder if the brown stuff you find in a Hersheys' wrapper is chocolate at all, really. Some people will defend their chocolate to the death. Some people will sneer at anyone else's idea of chocolate: 94% cocoa solids or nothing!

Some people are even allergic to chocolate.

But you know what? As long as the people with the allergies are kept safe, and everybody has a fair chance at getting the kind of chocolate that they're after, it's all good. We don't need a government proclamation saying "This chocolate right here is good old All-American Chocolate, the Official Chocolate of America," because some people are going to get pissed off and say "That's not chocolate!” and some people are going to be smirking about it because it’s THEIR chocolate that gets all the fame, and the people who are allergic to chocolate, and especially the people who are allergic to something that’s in the particular variety of chocolate that the government endorses, are going to get all pissy and call up the ACLU... again.

It’s pretty bloody stupid to be arguing about what kind of chocolate is the best, or legal, on taxpayers’ money and time, don’t you think? Save it for after work and debate merrily and happily away, with my blessings.

[identity profile] thebratqueen.livejournal.com 2002-06-27 11:13 am (UTC)(link)
Good point. Also I can't help but wonder why all the people who are saying "Just don't say those two words!" seem to have a problem with somebody telling them "Well then why don't you add those two words?"

What floors me is that so many people who get it if the actual words were "One nation, under no God". They'd be screaming about the goverment telling them God doesn't exist. Well guess what, kidlets? The "Under God" is telling you that God does exist and it's just as wrong.

Argh!

[identity profile] spydielives.livejournal.com 2002-06-27 12:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Learning that the founding fathers were Deists helped a whole lot... gave me a new perspective (and a lot more to read about).

People will have their stance, and refuse to listen to anyone else -- its true. We debated this in my tech quad yesterday, evenly split between the four of us who were in the office at the time (would have been different story, had the other three been there).

Tolerance... is not much practiced these days -- and is certainly NOT a value this government/administration seeks to promote.

*sigh*