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Azure Jane Lunatic (Azz) 🌺 ([personal profile] azurelunatic) wrote2015-04-23 10:35 pm
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Barrayaran Rituals: severance of armsbearer status in absence of the responsible Vor

For reasons which don't need exploring at this juncture, I got to thinking about Barrayaran rites. There 's the one where the Armsbearer* takes oath to the Vor, and (like any reasonable binding rite) the Vor promises to do right by the Armsbearer. There's the one where the Armsbearer petitions the Vor for release and the Vor releases the Armsbearer.

* Eventually, Barrayar will deal with a Herm, a Ba, or some other non-binary individual taking up arms.

Armsbearers are only human, and in the course of everything that's gone down since the Time of Isolation, there have to have been enough who have scarpered or otherwise betrayed their oaths in a non-immediately-fatal way that they've had to be replaced. Barrayar being Barrayar, everything will need to be done properly, so I imagine there's some sort of ceremony for formally dismissing the absent Armsbearer from their duties, so the Count never exceeds his twenty at any given time. (And, Barrayar being Barrayar, there have got to be various machimi plays in which an Armsman appears to have betrayed his oath and then either comes back just in time before being formally cast off, or tragically comes back just too late and everyone suffers the consequences/regrets.)

Likewise, Vor are only human. At some point in the great tapestry of Barrayaran history, some Vor has to have betrayed one or more of their Armsbearers badly enough to violate the standards of the most lackadaisical of Emperors. I'm talking full-on "march into this mutagen for no good reason" bone-deep abusive horror terrible. In the Barrayaran military, it would be well past illegal orders. And in the face of that, what's an Armsbearer to do?

Some Armsbearers might well realize the limits of what a mortal ought to put up with, and call it quits. Some Armsbearers might take their oath deep enough to stand through even that, to the point where the Emperor might intervene and discharge them of their oath. Sometimes a Vor might betray an Armsbearer and then flee. In the absence of the responsible Vor, the heir would most likely hold the responsibility, or the nearest reasonable authority. The Armsbearer might have the choice of taking oath to the heir or choosing freedom.

What form would all these ceremonies take? Barrayaran oaths are very hand-centric, the hands of the vassal between the hands of the lord. One does wonder how people with limb differences manage on Barrayar -- does a hand lost in battle affect the ability to take or give oath? How about arthritis?

I could see an emperor having some terrible excuse for a Vor frog-marched in front of him, required to kneel. Perhaps the Emperor would hold the Vor's hands between his, looming over his subject and physically compelling obedience. If touching the erring subject was beneath the Emperor's dignity, perhaps two of the Emperor's armsmen take a hand each and place the Vor's hands around his Armsbearer's hands. The Vor would be made to recite the words of release, perhaps at the point of a sword or nerve disruptor. I think Gregor might take a grim pleasure in watching the Armsbearer's hands fly free, requiring the Vor to perform the last duties of a Vor before stripping him of his title.

Without another Vor, without the Emperor, left abandoned -- what might an Armsbearer do, to lay down arms in defiance of a deserted Count?
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[personal profile] aella_irene 2015-04-24 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
Cut a lock of his hair off and burn it, as in mourning rituals? A way of saying 'the Count that I served would not have done this therefore the Count that I served is dead, and I am released from my oath'? possibly shaving the entire head as 'proof' in case he runs into people sufficiently later that the lock has grown back?
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[personal profile] lannamichaels 2015-04-24 01:42 pm (UTC)(link)
ooh, I like this.
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[personal profile] vass 2015-04-24 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I LIKE this. Very much.

One does wonder how people with limb differences manage on Barrayar -- does a hand lost in battle affect the ability to take or give oath? How about arthritis?

Yes, I'm wondering that too now. Or deliberately amputating someone's hands so they can't give or take oath that way. Like what nearly happened to Dono, only higher up and more disabling.
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[personal profile] lannamichaels 2015-04-24 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Can I steal armsbearer from you at some, um, future point where I actually finish a Vorkosigan fic again in my life? ;)
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[personal profile] sithjawa 2015-04-24 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
This line of thinking is making my brain take a major detour through Norse mythology. There's this whole thing about how Tyr is renowned for being even-handed in dispensing justice, right? And then he loses his hand to Fenrir, which, as I understand it, Loki thinks is a huge joke because who will believe Tyr can be even-handed now? I bet Barrayar has folklore about that.

Like maybe some ancient Vor is famous because whenever he kills somebody else in battle, he doesn't execute a single one of that person's followers, but somehow convinces all of them to take oath with him. And then he loses a hand in some important battle or other, and some people decide this means their oaths are nullified.

Since this is Barrayaran folklore we're talking about, it probably ends horribly somehow, possibly with everyone remotely involved dead or with fewer hands than they had when they started or both.

I think I disapprove of cutting off people's hands as a method of signifying that their armsbearers are released from oath though. And yet I can *totally imagine* it being the ancient penalty for really horrible crimes. Especially with the Barrayaran paranoia about physical nonconformity, it might be seen as the thing you do if what some Vor did is so terrible that it's seen as be too merciful to execute them and send them beyond the reach of those they've wronged.

Maaaaaaaaan I'm morbid today. Also, Barrayarans!
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[personal profile] pauamma 2015-04-25 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Now I'm wondering: does the sentence Miles passes at the end of Montains of Mourning have a basis in Barrayaran tradition? Maybe something of the kind would work against arrant Vors.
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[personal profile] kaberett 2015-05-01 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, did I not say ♥?! ♥. Also <3.