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azurelunatic) wrote2006-10-01 12:08 am
azurelunatic) wrote2006-10-01 12:08 am
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More Clusterfun than Chef and Filetmignon's last big downtimes! (An lj_biz summary.)
Poll #6666666
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So how's about some Sponsored Communities, in addition to the Plus accounts, huh? (Oh, and, um, paidusersmightkindaseeads.)
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Run away screaming
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Politely decline 256 (20.0%)
Cautiously try some 2 (0.0%)
Enthusiastically try some 1 (0.0%)
Somewhat later...
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bradfitz: "Holy hell, sorry about that. Communication is not our strong point this weekend. Lemme get the red pen and re-do that post. Previous stuff still applies: you paid, you no see ads. OMG. Sales and I are going to be having a nice long talk, as much as I hate taking time away from the geeking. SMS is totally for the win, though, and we're willing to let free users use it if you recognize that THERE WILL BE ADS on that part of the site, just like your buddy with the Plus account, the one you don't comment to anymore. Sponsored comms are going to happen, but they'll be well-labeled. And I totally want to use the word "clusterfuck" to describe this situation, but I can't put that in this post and get away with it, so forgive the typo, 'k? Now. I'm'a leave for the weekend and address the rest of this on Monday." Slashdot Refugees: "You know you love us."
Snarky Users: "Um, no."
Relieved Users: "OMFG THANK YOU BRAD WE LOVE YOU
Relieved User: "Well, now what do we do with the angry mob we assembled?"
Relieved Users: "Party time!"
Annoyed Users: "But we'll still see those comms on the front page when we log in. We don't have the choice to avoid them."
Support Volunteers: "Um, you do know you can log in using the Navbar and never see the front page, right?"
Annoyed Users: "Brad, reality check. You're no longer paying attention to LJ. LISTEN TO US. We are saying NO here."
Annoyed Users Who Swore They Were Leaving Last Time: "LJ, YOU ARE LYING LIARS WHO LIE!!"
Observant Users: "If they were opt-in only, no one would use them, if these comments are any indication. Maybe LJ wants us to at least try the shinies before declining them."
Neophobic Users: "No. Enough with the bells. Enough with the whistles."
Opinionated Users: "Navbar hate thread forms over here! Tips on how to get rid of it when it's forced on! Come one come all!"
Detail-Oriented Users: "The Console is fun."
Feedback-Oriented Users: "There are still a few issues with how sponsored comms come up in searches, though."
Cynical Users: "And here comes the damage control. How come Brad only comes out for the damage control?"
bradfitz: "Dude, I sold this thing so I could concentrate on the geeking, and not have to go play with users all the time. I come out and raise hell if things start going wrong, but otherwise, I'm in there with my headphones on so I can't hear y'all screeching." Brad's Fanclub: "Where's 6A's respect for Brad? OMG CORPORATE CORNHOLINGS ALL AROUND. It's not your fault we're in this handbasket."
Other Cynical Users: "This munged-up announcement and then retraction was a ploy to get us to accept it. Notice how this isn't in
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news?" Concerned Users: "So exactly how much is LJ going to bow to these sponsors? Will LJ start jerking the users around at the whim of the sponsors? How much of our data gets shared? Do they get to spam us? Give us some reassurance here. Please."
Concerned Anti-Establishment and Explicit Slash Writing Users: "Please tell me they get dumped if they try and commentspam us. If Warner Brothers sponsors comms, they had better not take my disestablishmentarianism icons and my graphic NC-
Anti-Fanfic/RP Users: "...wait, this could make fanfic and RP go away? I ♥ this."
Constructive Critic Users: "How about an extra section on profile pages, for sponsored comm memberships, that gets hidden from Paid users? Or you could switch to a different financial structure."
Detail-Oriented Users: "'Mostly not evil people' work for LJ? Um."
Archive.org and Google Cached Page Fans: "LJ, YOU ARE LYING LIARS WHO LIE!! Um, that is to say, you say it ain't a slippery slope. I see you sliiiiiiiiding."
Constructive Critic Users: "And something you haven't thought of yet but I see 1000 other people have mentioned: there needs to be a separate little picture for the sponsored comms. This one: $!"
Users Who Have Read the Previous Post: "Um, they're planning on that already. Though maybe not with that picture."
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slashdot: "Pwned."LJ: "Dude, it causes a tiny blip on LJ's servers when /. hits us. We could totally /. your ass by linking you in
news." Support: "Brad! Your communication boo-boo, YOUR FAULT. Not Rah's. WE KEEL YOU."
bradfitz: "Sorry. My bad. ETA: Not Rah's Fault!! MAJOR BROKEN COMMUNICATIONS HERE AT LJ CENTRAL!!" Observant Users: "... no fucking shit."
Reproachful Users: "'ETA: Sorry Rah' does not cut it. You have more problems than you realize."
Page 4 Commenter: "'Clusterfuns.'"
Non-US Users: "There is not enough voice post love for us."
Political Debaters: "Politics wank thread forms over here!"
Annoyed Users Who Swore They Were Leaving Last Time: "Still sucks.
Righteously Annoyed Users: "Try more with the 'asking us first' or at least the 'telling us well in advance' rather than the 'sneaking stuff in and then announcing it', eh?"
Cynical Users: "Stop talking down to us. You suck."
Optimistic Users: "Thanks for not talking down to us. You rock."
Drama Fans: *pass around popcorn and brownies*
People Who Still Maintain an LJ For Some Unknown Reason: "So why don't the people who are bitching about it just, you know, leave? I did."
Disgruntled/Disenchanted Paid Users: "This is not the kind of service I paid for. Why should I keep a paid account if Plus accounts get all the cool stuff for free?"
Irate Trolls: *troll*
Haters: *hate on Rah*
Easily Amused Users: *get involved in fun comment threads*
Thoughtful Users: *realize that their lengthy, well-considered essay responses just ended up on page 42 because the quick-comment people got here first*
Random Commenters: *make no sense*
This summary has been brought to you by Henrik Nyh's adaptation of the LJ Thread Unfolder with "Unfold All" (a GreaseMonkey script for FireFox), and 12 cups of coffee.
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THAT is something that should go on
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/me sends you a Bill for the resulting damage
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But that kind of thing would be quite difficult to sell advertising space on, so I don't expect to see it any time soon. ;-)
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It would be difficult to sell advertising space on, but to list it as a feature, especially in a sponsored community where perhaps the community maintainer could exert some level of control over the ranking of the comments rather than it be a strictly user-voted mechanism like /. -- that could be a serious selling point. I don't believe I've seen slashdot-style massively multiplayer comment ranking with overrides in any forum. That would be totally killer should some LJ-geek devote coding time to it.
I hang out in the LJ IRC "break room" enough to know that this idea would go over brilliantly well with the people who have to actually spend any amount of time working facing the users.
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At some point I will take the time to take this to
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No, a karma-type thing wouldn't work for LJ at all. Too big, too many different places. One of my buddies is really abrasive when he's dealing with idiots over in communities he helps run, and comes off really sadistic-bastard over there, but is the picture of courtesy (well, sort of) when in the company of friends, or at least in the company of me.
This would be for individual comments, and it would make sense to integrate permissions for rating comments with permissions for tagging, or at least treat it the same way. Really, the only major thing it would borrow from /. style comment rating would be a) the concept of rating comments, and b) the collapse patterns leaving high-rated comments out.
...and I bet if it were introduced without karma attached, people would be begging for it, because it's another way to measure popularity. But it just wouldn't work properly on LJ. Not without becoming too overly social-networky.
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1. You always leave out the people who insist on on using the news posts to write long messages to each other in Russian.
2. In terms of this development, I actually think the sponsored features idea is a really good one, but the sponsored community thing is not only a bad idea, it doesn't even make any sense. Why would we need to have Warner sponsor a Science of Sleep community when any random LJ user could do exactly the same thing for free? What am I missing here?
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It also helps to bring a lot of attention to films/products/whatever that everyone was otherwise ignoring.
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A Science community? Discovery Channel or Scientific American or something else of that nature(I'm sure Warner owns something that would qualify). A Sleep community? Drug companies, who burn astounding loads of cash on advertising.
6A wants in on that action. I don't blame them, there's a nice wad to be had there.
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Excellent job with this :D Particularly Beautiful. :D
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BEST LINE EVAR!
Awesomely funny and amusing as always!
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