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Azure Jane Lunatic (Azz) 🌺 ([personal profile] azurelunatic) wrote2002-05-15 10:27 am

ATTACK of the fucking CLONES!!!!!!!

Dawn is dragging me with her on the epic trip to go see the movie tonight. Included will be a large sampling of her local family, including a lot of kids. Some teenagers, some starting to do the belligerent thing.

I shall have to plan diversions. She wasn't sure how OK with that I'd be; I do wonderfully with kids past the age of reason, as long as I'm not supposed to fill in totally for their parents. With a certain person who I was a surrogate mother-figure for, the situation totally bombed out. A little (a day or three) is fine. Two weeks+ is not. One movie should be great fun.

One of the guys in my class group has seen the movie already, and is probably going to be burning copies for the people who beg him on their knees.

1 am, baby. AZ Mills mall.

Darkside's going to absolutely strangle me in the morning. He's going to want spoilers, and I'm going to want sleep. He's already read the Pat Wrede version (so have I; we traded AotC for DI; Wrede for Bujold, and then returned the books the next day) but he still wants to know what's up.

I'm going to be hyper all afternoon. Wow. Hyper. Wow. Star Wars.

I'm thinking I may go in light costume; either classic Queen Amidala makeup or some light Jedi or Princess Leia hair. I almost have the hair for it now, without the black yarn to fill out the puffs. ...No, not quite.

I'm going undercover in any case; this is the branch of Dawn's family that freaks out about all things witchy. Considering that it runs in the family, and the kids really need proper training before something odd starts happening more than it already is, this should be interesting. Rings off; necklace hidden.

Star Wars! Wheeee!!!

Re: not-so-silly question

[identity profile] boojum.livejournal.com 2002-05-15 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. By "learning to control their thoughts" I didn't mean "learning to think for themselves." I meant -- I don't know a good phrase for it, but have you ever had a thought or emotion circling in your head which was hard to remove? It's not externally imposed, it's just the brain getting into a rut (sometimes fairly instantly). Being able to control that and unrut yourself. I think that depressive spirals or uncontrollable rages or obsessions would be even scarier in someone with supernatural abilities than they would be in a generic person. I also don't think the various ruts are that uncommon. It's uncommon to get well and truly stuck in them, but most people get stuck in one or another for short periods of time.

Re: not-so-silly question

[identity profile] boojum.livejournal.com 2002-05-16 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
I've had the most success with physical foci, some of the mental mechanisms associated with safewords, and a technique that I can't describe at all usefully (you push and hold it there and sit on it). It still takes energy, but less so.

How do you break out of them? Do you have any good techniques for breaking out without concentrating enough that it's hard to sleep?

Re: soft reset button

[identity profile] boojum.livejournal.com 2002-05-16 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I'm more asking about "the usual relaxation things". I have great difficulty fending off catchy thoughts unless I'm entirely awake. The current incarnation of this is musical: a catchy song with a strong beat sometimes gets stuck in my head at bedtime. I can cover it up with another song, but the beats come through, and if my mind relaxes at all, the catchy song comes back. If the catchy song were a gentle song, I could probably sleep to it, but they're usually aggressive driving (in the sense of driving forward) songs that perk me up and make me want to move around. Singing and listening to music during the day helps some, but not fully.

I've had problems with other thought patterns too. It's never fully quiet in my head unless I'm really sick. I like it during the day, and can usually fall asleep to gentle wandering thoughts, but it's hard to deal with energetic thoughts at night.

(Hmmm...now that I'm thinking about this again, I wonder how much of the problem is caused by not being hyper enough during the day. Thank you for making me describe (and thus think more) about this!)

Re: not-so-silly question

[identity profile] iroshi.livejournal.com 2002-05-16 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, but the two aren't so unconnected. I've been known to think myself out of ruts, if they are in fact thought-induced rather than emotional, in which case, no controlling of thoughts is going to clear it up.

As for depressive spirals, uncontrollable rages, or obsessions? They're not very common in pre-teens in a happy household. And I do get told if one of the kids is acting up at all, let alone that out of character.

And self-control is very *definitely* being taught to them. *That's* been on the curriculum since the day they were born...or at least since they were able to crawl around and began to learn there were things they were allowed to touch and things they were not. A good parent imposes control on a child until they learn to control themselves, and gradually lets up by disciplining for willful loss of control, and encouragement and training for accidental losses.

Re: not-so-silly question

[identity profile] boojum.livejournal.com 2002-05-16 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I guess the specific example I was thinking of was induced by puberty's hormonal surges. Shortly after puberty I started getting in towering rages. I was able to learn to deal with them in stages. First I worked on not hitting anyone or trying to hit them, not screaming and stomping, etc. The physical outward signs. Then I worked on not focusing on how I hated the person and wanted to kill them and so forth, which meant I broke out of the rage much more quickly. I also worked on not letting anger get that far. I eventually stopped having rages like that, but I don't know how much of that was mental control and how much of that was hormonal stabilization. If I'd had actions directly triggered by my thoughts that I couldn't prevent by getting away from people and disabling my muscles, things would have been really ugly for a while. I couldn't work on the actions and the thoughts at the same time -- the actions would have broken loose. If I hadn't had to work out how to do it myself, the process would have been much smoother and I might have been able to do thoughts and actions at the same time.

I've been working on breaking myself out of emotional ruts, because my emotional ruts tend to be locked in by thoughts and actions. It's not just being down. It's being down and sitting in a corner and thinking about how much I suck and how useless I am and not getting enough sleep or outdoors time (both of which strongly affect my mood) and not doing anything productive. If I control the thoughts and actions, the emotion goes away after a while. I really doubt this would work on a purely emotional rut, though, or any sort of brain biochemical imbalance. It's a YMMV thing.