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Old stuff: 2011: 3/5-3/7
May. 21st, 2012 02:12 am(previous recap: http://azurelunatic.dreamwidth.org/6736662.html)
Saturday 3/5/11
Healing wounds are uncomfortably itchy.
Sunday 3/6/11
One of the random links I'd found was talking about how to deal with what they called "trolls". I read their link, and realized that they and I had a profound definition discord. What they were talking about were angry people with a legitimate grievance making noise in your space, what I might term "hecklers" if pressed. Protestors, perhaps. The article was about things like the angry customer who had a bad experience who then takes up space in blog comments telling other prospective customers that the company is crap and to not trust their customer service people. And with this sort of person, you figure out what their actual issue is, and talk to them, and see if you can solve it.
On contrast, what I would term a "troll" is someone who says "You know, things are boring; I'm going to see if I can piss people off so I can laugh at the results." I'm not entirely certain there's a cure for that.
5:52 AM 3/7/2011 Monday
Cleaning up my list of banned users & LJ notes to get rid of the suspended spammers. My favorite note was "Tried to join behind_thecouch in possession of a spammer journal." Also, there is a "friend finder" service for people who are no longer children, and there have been at least two twits spamming on behalf of that.
Having cleared out the dead spammers, here's the rundown. Keep in mind that these are all fairly recent, as I managed to get caught in a glitch that wiped my notes data a while ago. (The glitch has since been fixed.) (Most of the people who have the bad notes I never interacted with; the notes are there so I don't make that mistake.)
Identity: name in one place isn't the same as name in the other, don't know well enough yet to have this memorized.
Defends the indefensible: 3 linked to one particular incident, 1 to another.
Spammers in various locations: 13; spammer whose OpenID I slaughtered on DW: 1
Assaulted a friend of a friend: 1
So egregious a racist troll that there's still a note after they got suspended and then fell out the other side into deleted-and-purged: 1
Despicable personal habits: connecting legal names with online names in connection to minority religious matters: this can get people killed: 1
Associates with a rapist: 1
Started a hate comm: 1
Name rings a bad bell but I have no idea why: 1
Username is associated with the indefensible, but is actually appalled by the indefensible, so it's OK: 1
I realized that my willingness to quote awesome stuff from within a piece has very little connection to whether I am willing to recommend that piece as a whole. Obviously it's a point in favor of it, but I'm more likely to be in "quoted for truth" mode than "go read this thing now" mode. I rarely feel like I can put up the good-fic signal without having evaluated the piece as a whole. (Similarly, unfinished book series.)
Saturday 3/5/11
Healing wounds are uncomfortably itchy.
Sunday 3/6/11
One of the random links I'd found was talking about how to deal with what they called "trolls". I read their link, and realized that they and I had a profound definition discord. What they were talking about were angry people with a legitimate grievance making noise in your space, what I might term "hecklers" if pressed. Protestors, perhaps. The article was about things like the angry customer who had a bad experience who then takes up space in blog comments telling other prospective customers that the company is crap and to not trust their customer service people. And with this sort of person, you figure out what their actual issue is, and talk to them, and see if you can solve it.
On contrast, what I would term a "troll" is someone who says "You know, things are boring; I'm going to see if I can piss people off so I can laugh at the results." I'm not entirely certain there's a cure for that.
5:52 AM 3/7/2011 Monday
Cleaning up my list of banned users & LJ notes to get rid of the suspended spammers. My favorite note was "Tried to join behind_thecouch in possession of a spammer journal." Also, there is a "friend finder" service for people who are no longer children, and there have been at least two twits spamming on behalf of that.
Having cleared out the dead spammers, here's the rundown. Keep in mind that these are all fairly recent, as I managed to get caught in a glitch that wiped my notes data a while ago. (The glitch has since been fixed.) (Most of the people who have the bad notes I never interacted with; the notes are there so I don't make that mistake.)
Identity: name in one place isn't the same as name in the other, don't know well enough yet to have this memorized.
Defends the indefensible: 3 linked to one particular incident, 1 to another.
Spammers in various locations: 13; spammer whose OpenID I slaughtered on DW: 1
Assaulted a friend of a friend: 1
So egregious a racist troll that there's still a note after they got suspended and then fell out the other side into deleted-and-purged: 1
Despicable personal habits: connecting legal names with online names in connection to minority religious matters: this can get people killed: 1
Associates with a rapist: 1
Started a hate comm: 1
Name rings a bad bell but I have no idea why: 1
Username is associated with the indefensible, but is actually appalled by the indefensible, so it's OK: 1
I realized that my willingness to quote awesome stuff from within a piece has very little connection to whether I am willing to recommend that piece as a whole. Obviously it's a point in favor of it, but I'm more likely to be in "quoted for truth" mode than "go read this thing now" mode. I rarely feel like I can put up the good-fic signal without having evaluated the piece as a whole. (Similarly, unfinished book series.)
