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azurelunatic: "LJHS Computer Club: basically, we rule the goddamn planet" (LJHS computer)
I've been putting together this post for a month, ever since this one -- that was the theory, this is the practice of how it can all really go very wrong.

Some of these, I've done myself. (And I really wish I hadn't. Except the flamewar called down upon the abusive ex. That was good times.) Some of these, people have done to me. Some of these, I've seen done. Some of these, I'm very glad that I was not on the cleanup crew for. None of them are a good idea.




You know how someone on your friendslist pisses you off, and then you are moved to make a passive-aggressive rant about the thing they've just done, and then the very person who inspired your rant comes and says "Oh, I hate it when people do that!" and you have to come up with some sort of response to them? Heh. Heh. Heh.

Oh, and when someone inspires a passive-aggressive rant, and then they recognize themselves in the rant, but aren't straightforward enough to say "Look, I know this is me, cut the bullshit," so they make a passive-aggressive comment back about hoping they haven't been the inspiration for this, and then you reassure them that they're not, even though both of you know you're lying through your teeth? Yeah. Do like I say, and don't do that. I try not to do it much anymore.

Getting in public shouting matches with former members of your friendslist? Avoid. Really.

If you're going to lie, either make it a tall tale that people don't expect to be strictly the truth, or at least don't do it on something you can get caught on. ...People have ways of finding out things.

For the love of fucking Pete, don't make that nasty anonymous comment from the same IP address you left the not-nasty not-anonymous comment from five minutes earlier, especially when you leave another not-nasty not-anonymous comment five minutes later. Does "this user has enabled IP address logging" mean anything to you?

While reading your ex's unsecured journal, then cracking into your current girlfriend's journal to grant yourself access to read the entries that your ex's journal tells you that you must be missing, leaving a comment, and then deleting your extra access is a tempting thought, it leads to face-to-face defriending too.

Know who you gave your phone number out to. Don't take calls while half-asleep. Do make sure your caller ID is working. Do hang up on that creepy caller before they creep you out more.

Don't make comments that could be interpreted as mildly sarcastic or that you think the person is a moron, to someone you don't know, when coupled with that default userpic of yours that is about the trials and tribulations of dealing with morons, when speaking in your capacity as some sort of official person related to the area that you're commenting in. If you do, this is a really good time for a new default userpic. Like, right now.

Making a humorous comment that's really in very questionable, if not poor, taste, about an hour before leaving for vacation, for three weeks, in another country, where you won't have internet access, putting your friends in the very un-enviable position of attempting to clean up after you? Avoid. Really. If only because your friends are going to literally kill you when you get back. Bonus points if this somehow manages to get your friends spammed with some of the social fallout. (This is the extreme version of that thing that blows up while you're afk at work/overnight/for the weekend. No death actually occurred.)

When your friend has finally ditched her abusive ex, wait until after she has moved out before jumping all over the ass's comments in her journal. Restrain yourselves until then, and don't post about him where he can see it when he's standing over her shoulder trying to see what she's doing online. Make a note of the particularly good ideas you think of, though, because your time will come. Once he has been arrested, she has been extracted, and he has been released to his suddenly empty apartment, this is the time to descend. Do be polite, and quote his comments, correcting his spelling and grammar with careful red font before responding to them, because he does pride himself on his "highly skilled" "command" of the "language". Don't descend into the same sort of language that he has resorted to. Do wear your cleanest sockpuppets, and preemptively ban him from your own journal. Don't take it into his journal, because that's just crass. He thinks he has come armed to the battle of wits, so ten against one is perfectly fair when he's been physically shoving your friend around. You're only attacking him verbally. Do leave some for the rest; don't end the party too early. (This is one scenario where altering text color is vaguely passable, because it's already a flamewar.)

Do read the community rules before posting there.

Don't post while both angry and drunk.

Don't think that deleting a post or comment where you came off really badly is going to necessarily save you face. Someone may still have it open, or may have made a copy or screen capture. Everybody's going to stick their foot in their mouth at some point or another, and best of luck at avoiding it in the first place.

As satisfying as it may be to tell someone that you're defriending them because they're really an idiot, it'll probably start a fight, and you may not want a fight.

Why, no, Virginia, there is no such thing as "freedom of speech" in a LiveJournal community. Maintainers may run things however he, she, it, or they jolly well please, and it is entirely at their discretion whether they act with benevolence or as a petty, tin-plated dictator with the kind of behavior that would make the bastard lovechild of Caligula, Chairman Mao, Fidel Castro, and Cruella DeVille (yes, all at once) seem like a model of restraint and good leadership.

If you have a stats-tracker in a single journal entry and it gets reloaded fifteen times in an hour from a single source, don't automatically assume the worst. They're probably obsessively refreshing their friends page, not stalking you.

That sarcastic and cutting review of that journal entry that made your eyes bleed really shouldn't have been left in a place where the person who made it could see it, especially when you were just intending to vent steam that needed to be vented but you hadn't intended to aim at them. THERE IS A LOCK FEATURE.

Free tip: if you have to say "This isn't spam", it probably is. Also, saying "This isn't spam" doesn't magically make it not spam.

When the maintainers of the community put that interest in the community's interests list, that was not an invitation for you to come and invite them to try out your vaguely-related product and/or service.

If you are using LJ as a platform to solicit takers for your product and/or service, the burden of research for where an acceptable forum for inviting others to partake is, is upon you. Those posts you make to a half-billion vaguely related communities, with the disclaimer that if it's not all right to post that there, that you didn't mean to spam, and just delete it? That is an invitation to the maintainer to not only delete your post, but delete it and mark it as spam. And if you've done that to as many communities as I think you have, you're probably facing suspension, or at least a warning that if you do it again you're out.

If you're trying to communicate with one person, a shout-out in your journal might get through, but an IM or email might be more reliable. Or even a phone call. Don't depend on them reading that journal entry of yours.

On community etiquette: When you post to a community, and it doesn't quite fit the community rules, so you explain why it doesn't fit the community rules but that's OK for reason of something else that's against the community rules, and then you cap it off with something else that's not quite in line with community standards but has been okayed by something that's absolutely against community standards, and all of the rules and standards that you are violating are listed on the community profile: what the fuck. No, seriously, what the fuck. CAN YOU READ. (Some idiot was posting in [livejournal.com profile] metaquotes.)

Don't be too fussed if you make a post you consider important and no one comments to it.
azurelunatic: Fudge swirled with the LiveJournal logo.  (LJ fudge)
  • People in LJ tend to cluster into the same sorts of social groups that people face-to-face do, with the same kind of evolved social standards. Be careful about talking smack. )

  • That "friend" thing. If I list you as a friend, it means either a) I like to read your writing, b) I trust you to read my locked-down stuff (at least some of it), or c) both.

    It doesn't mean that I think that you think of me as a friend. There are people who I have listed as friends who may not have ever noticed my presence, or who may not remember me well and think of me as a cordial distant acquaintance.

    Or we may actually be friends. Who knows.

  • When you add someone as a friend, it's generally polite to inform them. )

  • [Edit: that friend thing. "Hi! I saw you and you're nifty! I'm adding you!" is absolutely not the same as "Hi! I saw you and you're nifty! Can I add you?" The former is an optional courtesy. The latter is a big red stamp across the forehead that says either NOOB, or DUMB-ASS NOOB WHO CANNOT READ, depending on whether the person being asked has a friending policy in their profile that says that anyone may add without asking. More discussion in comments. ]

  • [Edit: Friend rules. Different social groups have different friending/defriending standards, and if you assume that the standards that hold true in your group are obviously going to apply to their group, you're in for a world of social awkwardness. A stated friending/defriending policy from another user, usually as written or linked from their profile, trumps all other points of etiquette that you may have learned elsewhere. Their journal, their rules. ]

  • That "friend" thing. If I remove you as a friend, it may mean that I just don't need to see you on my friends page for whatever reason. tl;dr and other sins )

  • It is considered polite to let a person you're removing as a friend know why you're doing so, under most one-on-one circumstances with no hard feelings involved. )

  • Non-mutual friending! Some people actually care about making their friends match up with their friend-ofs. The existence of non-mutual friends drives them up the wall. I have no insight into this, and I don't think I want any.

  • Serial adding, and other forms of unrequited love! Some people think it reflects badly on them to have someone acting like a twit on their profile, but that's them. On the other hand, drama-mongers pick up detractors with supernatural speed. )

  • Someone's LJ is a little bit like their living room, or at least their garden party. Gatecrash politely, and don't brawl. )

  • If someone has disabled comments on a journal entry, chances are they don't want to have to field comments from the general public or the viewing audience, if the viewing audience is smaller than the general public. Unless you know them well enough to be reasonably assured that they won't take it ill if you contact them through other channels, don't. (If you do know them well enough to feel it's appropriate, or if you know that they have other standards, act accordingly.)

  • In a flat message-board environment, comments are presented in strict chronological order... and on LJ, they are not. Respect the threading. )

  • Signatures. Not bad, just foreign. )

  • Consider what you're going to say before you post to a community with people you don't know. You can save yourself looking stupid in front of a large audience. )

  • Commenting with unrelated material to a post, either in a personal journal or in a community, is generally some form of misstep. It's worst in a community or trying to sell stuff. If you're friends, you can get away with it. ) LiveJournal is not a commerce-friendly site.

  • Intrusive text formatting is frowned on. Sometimes it's acceptable, but certain things are considered horribly rude. ) Yes, it may just be that you're making sure that your text shows up as pitch-black wherever it's at.

    Congratulations. You've just rendered your text unreadable to the person with the black background. Not only that, but you went out of your way to do it. Yes, they may be able to read it with a little work, but the fact remains that you made it harder for them to read, and it was a change you made deliberately, and they won't thank you for it.

    Some people may not be affected or only minimally affected; some people would only have to squint a little; some people would have to go out of their way to make it readable; some people, especially visually impaired people and blind people with screen readers, may be completely unable to read whatever it was you wrote.

    Any imagined cool-factor your precisely-chosen size/font/color combination is intended to create will be overshadowed by the fact that you're violating the social standard. Something like this can be overlooked in your own journal, but it still is not a good idea. ) Posting to a community with altered text, or posting comments with altered text, is a profoundly antisocial activity. There may be isolated pockets where altering text is accepted or even encouraged, but it's a standard that even known trolls rarely violate.

  • Excessively long, wide, markup-intensive, and/or bandwidth-intensive entries get <lj-cut> under most circumstances. So do items that are of dubious safety. LJ has a lot of standards about being responsible to the community as a whole.

  • Userpics. They're everywhere! And they actually mean things! )

  • Respect the lock. What happens behind locked entries stays there, under most circumstances. ) If in doubt, don't spread it around. You don't want a reputation for not respecting locks and filters. Really.

  • Journals are for posting in, if you live here. If you don't post in your livejournal, like, ever, you're treated as if you don't belong here. ([livejournal.com profile] barakb25, I'm looking at you.) This is because you mostly don't belong here. You don't know the culture, you don't know the people, and you're not driven to chronicle the same way the rest of us are.

    Even if you only do have the journal for the purpose of commenting, or of reading the locked entries of your friends, it is polite to post to your journal at least once to announce this. Comments may be set in any which way, but there should be at least one public post. Even completely private journals should be posted in. It really unnerves LJ citizens to see a journal that has never been posted in. The casual user may never notice, but we'll know.


  • [Edit: replies! When replying to someone's comment to you, always hit the "reply" link to that comment, and never the main "reply" link for the whole post. Sometimes weird issues will cause you to accidentally reply as a top-level comment, and that's regrettable, but not your fault. "Replying" to someone else but not using the reply link on their comment means they are never notified that you have replied, which is an integral part of LJ social interaction. People depend on these notifications to continue discussion, and may not ever revisit the post without that notification. Plus, it breaks threading. There are legit reasons to reply to the main post and address issues brought up in comments, but if that is intended to be a reply to any of the commenters, at least drop them a reply letting them know to see the full reply at top-level.]


  • [Edit: I have a whole separate post on friending now.]


  • [Edit: If you aren't reading someone regularly, and they don't know about this (and you don't really want them to know), and they say something that baffles you, go get caught up on their recent entries (if the context allows it) before you ask what's up. Otherwise you risk blowing your cover about not reading them.]
azurelunatic: Azz and best friend grabbing each other's noses.  (best friends forever)
There are two males in my life (present and past) who get referred to in a very similar tone of mingled affection and annoyance. They are Darkside and Fuzzy Modem. I offer here a breakdown of some of the most common similarities and differences between Darkside and Fuzzy Modem.

Read more... )

Summary: Google Spreadsheets has a lot of improvements to go before they master export to HTML. Darkside is so much ♥, in a perfectly sour, sarcastic, and antisocial way. Fuzzy is a walking reality show waiting to happen, and my best position there is spectator, not co-star.


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Nine times out of ten, when I drop someone from my friends list, it's not for reasons of personal quarrel. (In actual practice, it's more like 99 times out of 100.) It's usually because I'm not reading them, or don't want to keep reading them, and reasons for that generally include just not saying things that I relate to, or often saying things that I don't relate well to. One face-to-face friend from school was dropped because of his truly abysmal spelling. Grammar bitch aside, he's still a great kid -- I just can't bear to watch him mangle the language without some warning. Or perhaps a journal is, to me, The Big Yawn. Does that make it bad? No. Absolutely not. Does that make it something I want or need to read? No. Not interested, not applicable, I wish them well in their endeavors and hope they wish me the same, not going to waste both our times.

That 99.99th time, however, there may well be something going on. And sometimes people will hear all about it. (Sometimes only my friends, or a subset of same, will get to hear me blow off steam, so that I can not rip heads off in public or near-public forums. Example: the ethics != ethanol incident.) And sometimes people won't. And sometimes people will hear the general situation, but not the juicy details (like who exactly it was who pissed me off so badly that I had to rant in <h1> for a few paragraphs on the generalized sin that they committed). I prefer to take something good from situations of personalized arrrgh by pulling out some of the principles of interpersonal interaction and waving them around, especially those that just got violated.

I learned, offline, my lesson about getting involved with a brigade of dramatics of the sort where everybody hates one person, even those who don't even know them. Tried that, got my feathers scorched, not trying it again.

This doesn't make me some kind of angel/saint/hero. This doesn't make those who aren't as circumspect some kind of demon/villain/stinkyhead (necessarily; extenuating circumstances may apply). This does make things a lot calmer for me than they are for some other people, and I really enjoy that. I really, really enjoy that.

I'd be tempted to say, "But can't we all just get along?" but I know that in the real world, this doesn't work so well. But I'm happy to get along with people who aren't pissing me off, at least to the extent of being polite with them. I'm happy to get along with people who aren't getting along with each other, with each of the quarreling parties in separate corners. (Picking bitchfights with my friends in my company for no discernable reason is an easy way to annoy me. My friends picking bitchfights back over really petty shit is another easy way.) I'm willing to sympathize with someone who's venting, and smooth ruffled feathers and notice if there's some major communication that's just not happening (as witness the dictionary proto-flamewar). [livejournal.com profile] garnetdagger says: "If it doesn't affect us, I don't want to get involved."

So... yeah. Feel free to vent if you must, since I'm clergy and all that, but if you want me to join in the chorus of telling so-and-so that he's a bitch, you probably won't get me to join in unless he's just freshly and personally pissed me off too.
azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
How can this be?

First off, I was raised in a home on the outskirts of Fairbanks, one of Alaska's larger cities. Note that the population of 82,000 is for the entire large district area, including North Pole and other outlying communities; Fairbanks itself has a population of 30,000.

Only Anchorage is not small-town Alaska or smaller; much of Alaska's land is bush. [1]

So, I was raised in small-town Alaska, by a Registered Geek father, without a TV.

Yep. Without a TV.

That means, I did not grow up on cartoons. I did not grow up watching Mr. Rogers. I did not grow up with the Smurfs, or Sesame Street. I did not grow up watching $NEWS_ANCHOR. (Though I did have NPR...) I did not grow up with $SITCOM.

Much of the US's mass media culture is transmitted via television. I grew up apart from that. It means very little to me when someone comments, "Oh, $AWARD_SHOW is tonight, isn't it."

I was introduced to Star Trek via the books, through a happy accident in the library, where one of Alan Dean Foster's novelizations of the animated series was tossed in with the childrens' paperback chapter books. Only after I grew to love it text-only did I wind up watching it over at my virtual cousin's house.

After I turned 18, good ol' Fuzzy Modem wound up with an extra television set, and gave that to me; River gave me a spare VCR of his. I went off to college at UAF for a year, and discovered MTV and VH1, and was part of the informal "insomniac music video club" in the lounge between the hours of midnight and breakfast. I discovered the sci-fi channel. I got addicted.

There is a fuzzy area between that first attempt at college and my second one. In that, I got engaged to BJ, and discovered what true TV addiction is, in the person of his father.

BJ's father is a type A remote driver. The remote is HIS. If he gets bored, the channel is changed. Socializing, in that house, was sitting in the living room around the TV. Programs I wasn't interested in. I went from interested in specific programs, and indifference to others, to active loathing of TV. When we relocated to Arizona for college, the roommates and BJ were almost just as bad with the TV.

Now, it has become somewhat of a trueism in the household that the way to get me to leave a room is to turn on the TV.

TV use here has gone way down. I would say that we collectively watch, in this household, zero to one hour of TV per week. Sometimes the Little Fayoumis watches cartoons on weekends; more often, these days, he does not. Sometimes [livejournal.com profile] marxdarx catches The Simpsons; sometimes he does not.

Do I feel like I'm missing out on something? Honestly, no. I followed a few shows for a while (X-Files, Frasier, Star Trek) but the only one I really was addicted to onscreen was the X-Files; I got into Trek when it was in reruns, and reruns are... something else.


One thing that continually boggles me is that Darkside and I get along as well as we do. I was raised without TV; he was, as an Army brat, raised on it. He can talk nonstop about TV for over two hours; I know that he's rather hooked on it. If we were ever in a permanent relationship and cohabitating, we might have a few issues. However, I have faith that if we ever do get together, we'll be able to work things out, because we always do.


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[1] Darkside had a very bad joke about Shawn and the Alaskan bush, which somehow I wound up being reminded of.

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